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Anyone know if Hugo Friedhofer composed music for Brando's nearly three hour long initial cut of One Eyed Jacks? Or, did Hugo come in after the studio had drastically cut the film down to the current running time? It would be great if there is additional music that could one day be released on cd.
Hello Clipton,
Just briefly (as I'm in work!) I remember reading in Linda Danly's highly informative book, Hugo Friedhofer: The Best Years of His Life: A Hollywood Master of Music for the Movies, that Hugo mentioned that there is about 25-30 mins more music written for the score (and recorded I think ?) than what remains in the released film print! Get this book if you can as it contains an excellent account of Friedhofer's early involvement with Brando's masterpiece, that's how the film appeared to Hugo, a masterpiece, until the studio got the scissors out and butchered it!
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Jul 27, 2010 - 1:22 PM
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Anyone know if Hugo Friedhofer composed music for Brando's nearly three hour long initial cut of One Eyed Jacks? Or, did Hugo come in after the studio had drastically cut the film down to the current running time? It would be great if there is additional music that could one day be released on cd.
Hello Clipton,
Just briefly (as I'm in work!) I remember reading in Linda Danly's highly informative book, Hugo Friedhofer: The Best Years of His Life: A Hollywood Master of Music for the Movies, that Hugo mentioned that there is about 25-30 mins more music written for the score (and recorded I think ?) than what remains in the released film print! Get this book if you can as it contains an excellent account of Friedhofer's early involvement with Brando's masterpiece, that's how the film appeared to Hugo, a masterpiece, until the studio got the scissors out and butchered it!
Charles Lang who photographed "One Eyed Jacks" told me the original cut ran nearly 5 hours. Brando edited it down to three hours and then left after Paramount ordered him to reduce it substantially. Paramount then cut the film down to 141 minutes. And at that length it's still too long.
It's my understanding that Friedhofer scored to a much longer version and was then forced to trim quite a bit of what he composed to fit the new cut. A very bad transition occurred when the main title cue ended and there was a sudden drop of the volume where the music just faded down suddenly only to suddenly fade up. That was in all the original release prints. In later video versions it was fixed.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3904356691955446551#
I understand the film has fallen into public domain which is why it's not available from Paramount Home Video. Their last official release was on laser disc. As of today there are eight different DVDs. Most of the DVDs were taken off the laser which is why the quality is so bad.
What's tragic is right before the film fell into public domain, Paramount had done a marvelous new transfer of the film. So that master sits in storage.
As was his custom, Friedhofor relinquished conducting duties to someone else, in this case to Paramount's Irvin Talbot. The soundtrack performance is impeccable. I wonder if Paramount saved the three-track scoring masters. Joe???
"One Eyed Jacks" was the second to last Paramount feature to be filmed in Vistavision. The last being "My Six Loves" in 1963.
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Anyone know if Hugo Friedhofer composed music for Brando's nearly three hour long initial cut of One Eyed Jacks? Or, did Hugo come in after the studio had drastically cut the film down to the current running time? It would be great if there is additional music that could one day be released on cd.
Hello Clipton,
Just briefly (as I'm in work!) I remember reading in Linda Danly's highly informative book, Hugo Friedhofer: The Best Years of His Life: A Hollywood Master of Music for the Movies, that Hugo mentioned that there is about 25-30 mins more music written for the score (and recorded I think ?) than what remains in the released film print! Get this book if you can as it contains an excellent account of Friedhofer's early involvement with Brando's masterpiece, that's how the film appeared to Hugo, a masterpiece, until the studio got the scissors out and butchered it!
Charles Lang who photographed "One Eyed Jacks" told me the original cut ran nearly 5 hours. Brando edited it down to three hours and then left after Paramount ordered him to reduce it substantially. Paramount then cut the film down to 141 minutes. And at that length it's still too long.
It's my understanding that Friedhofer scored to a much longer version and was then forced to trim quite a bit of what he composed to fit the new cut. A very bad transition occurred when the main title cue ended and there was a sudden drop of the volume where the music just faded down suddenly only to suddenly fade up. That was in all the original release prints. In later video versions it was fixed.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3904356691955446551#
I understand the film has fallen into public domain which is why it's not available from Paramount Home Video. Their last official release was on laser disc. As of today there are eight different DVDs. Most of the DVDs were taken off the laser which is why the quality is so bad.
What's tragic is right before the film fell into public domain, Paramount had done a marvelous new transfer of the film. So that master sits in storage.
As was his custom, Friedhofor relinquished conducting duties to someone else, in this case to Paramount's Irvin Talbot. The soundtrack performance is impeccable. I wonder if Paramount saved the three-track scoring masters. Joe???
"One Eyed Jacks" was the second to last Paramount feature to be filmed in Vistavision. The last being "My Six Loves" in 1963.
Ed, Thank you for all this fascinating information. It would be wonderful indeed if Joe Capps could give us some positive news as regards the survival of "the three-track scoring masters" I desperately hope that these still exist and that we might someday see a newly remastered expnded soundtrack release.
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Jul 29, 2010 - 8:24 AM
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Brando's masterpiece, that's how the film appeared to Hugo, a masterpiece, until the studio got the scissors out and butchered it!
Composers (and others) sometimes get carried away when talking about "the one that got away." Remember how Jerry Goldsmith used to sigh about LEGEND being his finest score ever? Is there anybody else out there who judged the uncut JACKS to be a "masterpiece"? I saw the film only in a revival house (New York's Film Forum, where the audiences are usually fairly sophisticated), and I remember a lot of laughter in the wrong places.
I'm trying to think where the laughs could possibly be! It was a fairly serious and, at times, sadistic western.
I'm always surprised when I read how much longer the original cut was because the film seems to flow very well. It's difficult to figure where all the cuts could have been made unless massive chunks of film were cut prior to Brando's early prison escape. Still, I'd have loved to have seen the uncut version - it's one of my favourite films, as is the score.
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I would buy this one for sure.
Yavar
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May 22, 2016 - 9:48 AM
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Revisiting recent re-recordings for 'Guns of Navarone', 'The Alamo', Fall of the Roman Empire', 'El Cid'...I thought I'd resurrect this post while we MAY have James Fitzpatrick's attention. I don't think there is a better epic score more sorely in need of the Tadlow treatment than 'Pride'. If this score were done as only they can do it - it would be absolutely massive. PLEASE, someone, someday - soon.
I would LOVE to record PRIDE AND THE PASSION...one of my favourite score ....but, Prometheus are not too keen to finance it....Tadlow Music has rather emptied their coffers with OBSESSION, BLUE MAX and IS PARIS BURNING?
Does anyone know of rich, soundtrack fan with about $60,000 to spare and no real chance of getting the investment back ...apart from having the gratitude of lots of film music fans!!!
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