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 Posted:   Jun 21, 2023 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

WillemAfo, I have to admit I'm not following. You're saying Disney would bury a non-existent reboot of a thirty-year-old series that was heavily promoted and a complete ratings failure that they nonetheless started running on their streaming platform?

TheAvenger, it seems to me that a specialty-label release of this music would exist not as part of a larger corporate promotional plan by Disney (keep in mind, these releases sell maybe three thousand copies, while Disney+ has nearly 160 million subscribers), but thanks to the hard work done by our favorite labels (often over years) to make allies at the studios who allow it to happen despite the lack of profit. In the case of Young Indy, I have no idea if Varese still retains the rights to what they released or even to the entire series. I have no idea what studio owns the rights to the music (the series aired on Disney-owned ABC and was produced by Disney-owned Lucasfilm, but also by Paramount and Amblin). I have no idea about pretty much anything. I believe that Roger at Intrada has inquired about this over the years. What he's found, only he knows.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2023 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Young Indy is indeed already on Disney+.

Not in the UK, it looks like.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2023 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I covered this series earlier this year and when I posted the last known comment by Roger I could find, he did chime in:
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=150139&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2023 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   WillemAfo   (Member)

I have no idea about pretty much anything.

Well-said, Schiffy and the same goes for me too.

Since you kept asking, I'll clarify for you that I'm merely supposing a few things:

First off, we have absolutely no idea whether Disney actually wants to reboot Young Indiana Jones.

We do know that companies owning IPs mean that content has to be made; that is baked into the company's very premise of owning IPs. This is why Disney and others schedule their movies years in advance, long before the movie have even been conceived of. This is very different from how movies used to be made based on good ideas that were workshopped to see if they could be made into good movies and if so, then they were made.

Given that, "Young Indiana Jones" being released on Disney+ approximately one month before the release of "Indy 5" is entirely consistent with Disney timing their content drops to advertise for upcoming related content. In short, I firmly believe releasing "Young Indiana Jones" was primarily meant as an advertisement for Indy 5.

The release of "Young Indiana Jones" doesn't mean Disney likes it. It's simply content they own for an IP they own, and they can't not release it.

From there, I then make my suppositions.

"Young Indiana Jones"s style is incompatible with Disney
"Young Indiana Jones" has George Lucas written all over it - the style, the dialogue, the effects - and Disney has not seemed to be terribly interested in replicating anything in Lucas' style, case in point their rejection of his story plans for the Star Wars sequels.

I love "Young Indiana Jones" and can also acknowledge that it's very cheesy and doesn't resemble anything that the industry is currently putting out today.

Consequently, I'm guessing that Disney views "Young Indiana Jones" as a black sheep in the Indiana Jones IP, but content nonetheless that it has to at least pay lip service to.

Disney can't let the Indiana Jones IP die, even though it has a high risk of doing so
Indiana Jones as I explained before has a lot of qualities about it that make it pretty impossible to keep expanding or rebooting as-is. Assuming those, you then conclude that the core movies are basically dead in the water, essentially causing the IP to stagnate. But Disney can't let that happen, because it's an IP.

So, the only other places it COULD expand is either an Indiana Jones spinoff or reboot of Young Indiana Jones, which has far less cultural cache than Harrison Ford's original 3 films and thus less risk of angering fans. Additionally, "Young Indiana Jones" perfectly aligns with current industry trends in that it is literally the embodiment of an "origin" story, which the industry loves at the moment.

But, that requires a reboot.

A Young Indy reboot would be risky, but consistent with industry trends
"Young Indiana Jones" currently sits on a middle ground - it's just obscure enough for many people to probably have never seen it originally and thus have no emotional ties to it, but also not quite obscure enough that remaking it wouldn't anger fans. Given the fan backlash to Indy 5, doing a reboot for "Young Indiana Jones" right before, during, or right after the release of Indy 5 would be extremely risky timing.

Given industry trends and all of the aforementioned, it's unlikely that Disney would remake "Young Indiana Jones" as-is and more likely would want to remake it darker and grittier. Which again, would likely anger fans. So, that's where I felt the other commenter's suggestion of 10 years seems like a reasonable amount of time for Disney to wait for fans to get even older, put more distance between a remake and Indy 5, but still follow through on keeping the IP alive.

All of that said, it is probably more likely that they'd try an off-shoot Indy tv series with side characters.

Overall though, I was saying that "Young Indiana Jones" is such a simple concept that it would be easy to remake as-is: "Indiana Jones is involved in key historical events of the 20th century". That's such a high concept that it would be extremely easy to just cast a new Young Indy and keep making those stories. But the further away the 20th century gets in the rear-view mirror, the less relevance its history and/or Indiana Jones will have for younger target audiences. Far more relevant would be fleshing out Indy's backstories with a young Abner Ravenwood, young Marion, young Sallah, young Brody etc. in a tv show, you know, something called maybe, Indiana Jones: The Artifacts Of Power.

 
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