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can someone tell me where i can purchase LOVE IS A BALL by LEGRAND , i tried HMV JAPAN but it is out of stock, and HMV UK, doesnt list it at all , not very familiar with too many sites. it was relesed in 2007 same as the lp. any help is appreciated. thanks
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Somehow, I think us Legrandheads would have known about this release, and I have never heard of a CD release to this score.
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Mike, I have to hand it to you. You found a Michel Legrand release that snuck in under the radar and I'll bet very few FSM message board readers will have it. I certainly don't. And your post was news to me. With the gauntlet having been thrown down, so to speak, I spent an hour online looking and came up dry. I'll have to check with my vast network of spies and see what's what. It seems to have been categorized more as a "jazz" CD rather than a "soundtrack" CD in some circles, thus befitting its jazzy nature. There was a release in Japan on January 13, 2008. Label: Universal Japan. Cat. #: UNIJ6825.2 EVERYONE that I could find on my first go-round who did sell it is now "out of stock." And one source went so far as to say that the CD has been "discontinued by the manufacturer." So I guess it was a low-number limited pressing only in Japan that got by all of us. I still have my Phillips LP, so it's not a total loss. But I'll be looking. Interesting how this one just came and went. Ron Burbella.....ron, if u get a chance , email me at mmboyd92@yahoo.com thanks , mike
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Unless someone actually has seen it and listened to it, I'd be inclined to suspect that this one suffered a similar fate. I've seen several Japanese CDs that were announced and listed with a release date on various sites, only to be "discontinued" before they were ever released. I suspect that was the case here as well.
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Unless someone actually has seen it and listened to it, I'd be inclined to suspect that this one suffered a similar fate. I've seen several Japanese CDs that were announced and listed with a release date on various sites, only to be "discontinued" before they were ever released. I suspect that was the case here as well. I'm guessing this, too. But Ron loves these "ghost" CDs and will spend the rest of his waking days chasing something that probably doesn't exist. There's really no way I wouldn't have known about this, just as there's no way that there's not proof of one single person who has it, nor has it ever shown up anywhere, because I have regular searches for Legrand. There are many, MANY CDs listed with release numbers that never see the light of day - and people continue to believe in their existence and put them on their want lists and keep searching them out. I believe, actually, that Ron has many of these things on his want list. Ron?
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bruce , i am confused , like u say there is no way u would not have known about it ,if u are a LEGRAND fan, and must have many sources out there since u produce, but what i dont understand is , u say that there are many cds that have label numbers , release dates etc, if thats true , then i just do not see the point, i mean why bother to list something that doesnt exist and like u and others say , most likely will not come out, i ran across it , because i was looking for the LEGRAND cd with the cues from THE GO-BETWEEN , and there was LOVE IS A BALL , price , cat number ,picture of the cover etc, and it said out of stock, that was on HMV JAPAN, somewhere along the line in doing all this , doesnt money come into play , i mean they have to pay for the rights or something , or am i wrong , i just dont get why they would go to all the trouble of doing that , have people back order or order out of stock things if they didnt exist, ,,,,,,,,u have have produced many great scores that i thought would never see the light of day, and i am sure you would not tell us of something u were going to produce , and then have people order , just to have the cd never come out, or ever have had the intention of it coming out, ,,,, so maybe u can clarify this for me, please?
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Apr 5, 2009 - 12:18 PM
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Looking at the HMV Japan website, The Good Things In Life, which I mentioned above, has now completely disappeared. However, here's another one - Tony Bennett Live At The Sahara: http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-Sahara-Tony-Bennett/dp/B000066SO8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1238955310&sr=8-1 That got as far as sending pre-issue copies out, but it did not make it into the shops. Ever. That's two CDs from the same artist within the last few years. I think everyone thinks that record companies are in some way perfect, and they're not. They make mistakes. A few years back, Sony in the UK advertised in other CDs Roy Orbison's Regeneration album coupled with a compilation called Rarities. But it never happened, and I was excited enough to contact them to ask why. They could not find the master tapes. Also, I guess that the first a rights holder might hear about a particular release is when it's actually got as far as being added to catalogues.
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ELLINGTON,thanks for the help, i guess it is just my not knowing anything about that end of the buisness, and i admit it, i mean , i go on a site , see something that i want i order and thats that, i was not aware of just how complicated these things are, and thanks again for the help.
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I believe there are missing Varese numbers for the same reason - a title was announced or planned and then fell through the cracks. As you know, Blood In - Blood Out actually made it to the pressing phase but was pulled and never released (other than copies getting out to a few collectors - I leave it to those with imaginations to figure out how THAT happened). I believe Sony West End Broadway announced (with catalog number) the London cast recording of On The Town - never happened and people like Ron have been searching in vain ever since, even though Sony SAID it never made it past the announcement - i.e. the CD was neither mastered or pressed. It happens more than you'd think. In fact, it happened to Kritzerland recently, when we had to abort Lady Oscar, which I now wish we had not aborted - first and LAST time I will ever be bullied and/or have someone with an agenda (use your imaginations) cause me grief.
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I believe there are missing Varese numbers for the same reason - a title was announced or planned and then fell through the cracks. As you know, Blood In - Blood Out actually made it to the pressing phase but was pulled and never released (other than copies getting out to a few collectors - I leave it to those with imaginations to figure out how THAT happened). I believe Sony West End Broadway announced (with catalog number) the London cast recording of On The Town - never happened and people like Ron have been searching in vain ever since, even though Sony SAID it never made it past the announcement - i.e. the CD was neither mastered or pressed. It happens more than you'd think. In fact, it happened to Kritzerland recently, when we had to abort Lady Oscar, which I now wish we had not aborted - first and LAST time I will ever be bullied and/or have someone with an agenda (use your imaginations) cause me grief.....thanks bruce for help clearing most of that up.
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Apr 5, 2009 - 10:48 PM
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Unless someone actually has seen it and listened to it, I'd be inclined to suspect that this one suffered a similar fate. I've seen several Japanese CDs that were announced and listed with a release date on various sites, only to be "discontinued" before they were ever released. I suspect that was the case here as well. I'm guessing this, too. But Ron loves these "ghost" CDs and will spend the rest of his waking days chasing something that probably doesn't exist. There's really no way I wouldn't have known about this, just as there's no way that there's not proof of one single person who has it, nor has it ever shown up anywhere, because I have regular searches for Legrand. There are many, MANY CDs listed with release numbers that never see the light of day - and people continue to believe in their existence and put them on their want lists and keep searching them out. I believe, actually, that Ron has many of these things on his want list. Ron? ********************************************** I also took the YesAsia gambit. Thanks for the tip! Hey, for $20.99, Bruce, I'll be saving at least $979.01. In this economy, that's a plus. I can see someone at YesAsia scratching their head tomorrow wondering why all these crazy soundtrack collectors are ordering this nonexistant CD all of a sudden! But like Jeff's expectation, I expect that I'll get the inevitable "out of stock" and/or "discontinued by the manufacturer" response. But I had to try. I even looked on some Taiwanese, Chinese, and other foreign sites. But if this is an "on-demand" CDR, kind of like what Amazon in the USA did with David Newman's THE SPIRIT or what Albany Music does with the RCA/Charles Gerhardt series, we might be in luck...but I doubt it. Since I started collecting vinyl soundtracks in 1962 at age 12 (do the math - I'll be 60 in May), I had come across umpteen gazillion (maybe a little less) soundtracks rumored to exist, so I just added them to my ever-expanding "want list." Since CDs came out in the mid-1980s, quite a few soundtracks have been announced but were never released. Bruce named a few. Some had an LP and a CD announced, the movie bombed, the LP did make it into print, and the CD (though announced) was canceled as the film tanked at the box office. I always viewed my "want list" not always as an historical documentation of actual items, but as a documentation of the real and imagined quests and foibles of the times for us collectors. It was an amalgamation of both soundtrack truth and (inevitably) soundrack myth. I have (reluctantly) deleted dozens of items over the years, as I became sure that they didn't exist. A few items still languish on my CD want list, awaiting deletion....uh....someday. Hey, you never know! Ron Burbella
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Unless someone actually has seen it and listened to it, I'd be inclined to suspect that this one suffered a similar fate. I've seen several Japanese CDs that were announced and listed with a release date on various sites, only to be "discontinued" before they were ever released. I suspect that was the case here as well. I'm guessing this, too. But Ron loves these "ghost" CDs and will spend the rest of his waking days chasing something that probably doesn't exist. There's really no way I wouldn't have known about this, just as there's no way that there's not proof of one single person who has it, nor has it ever shown up anywhere, because I have regular searches for Legrand. There are many, MANY CDs listed with release numbers that never see the light of day - and people continue to believe in their existence and put them on their want lists and keep searching them out. I believe, actually, that Ron has many of these things on his want list. Ron? ********************************************** I also took the YesAsia gambit. Thanks for the tip! Hey, for $20.99, Bruce, I'll be saving at least $979.01. In this economy, that's a plus. I can see someone at YesAsia scratching their head tomorrow wondering why all these crazy soundtrack collectors are ordering this nonexistant CD all of a sudden! But like Jeff's expectation, I expect that I'll get the inevitable "out of stock" and/or "discontinued by the manufacturer" response. But I had to try. I even looked on some Taiwanese, Chinese, and other foreign sites. But if this is an "on-demand" CDR, kind of like what Amazon in the USA did with David Newman's THE SPIRIT or what Albany Music does with the RCA/Charles Gerhardt series, we might be in luck...but I doubt it. Since I started collecting vinyl soundtracks in 1962 at age 12 (do the math - I'll be 60 in May), I had come across umpteen gazillion (maybe a little less) soundtracks rumored to exist, so I just added them to my ever-expanding "want list." Since CDs came out in the mid-1980s, quite a few soundtracks have been announced but were never released. Bruce named a few. Some had an LP and a CD announced, the movie bombed, the LP did make it into print, and the CD (though announced) was canceled as the film tanked at the box office. I always viewed my "want list" not always as an historical documentation of actual items, but as a documentation of the real and imagined quests and foibles of the times for us collectors. It was an amalgamation of both soundtrack truth and (inevitably) soundrack myth. I have (reluctantly) deleted dozens of items over the years, as I became sure that they didn't exist. A few items still languish on my CD want list, awaiting deletion....uh....someday. Hey, you never know! Ron Burbella Oh, make no mistake, I ordered it, too It won't be coming, but why not - we'll all get the same notice. Broadway cast albums were often announced and then the show would bomb, the recording wasn't made but because we saw it in an ad or on the window card we always wondered... and wondered...
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