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 Posted:   Mar 21, 2009 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Looks like 'The Alamo' has the green light to be restored, though still needs some funding. Maybe a full score CD is a little closer?

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/robertharris/harris032009.html

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2009 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

As a native Texan, I was astonished at how small the Alamo is- and how it is is squeezed in the middle of downtown San Antonio, which I might add is one of the most beautiful, picturesque cities in our state.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2009 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Nice tourist attraction
Nice movie
Nice score

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2009 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

The museum inside is fascinating.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2009 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   ceb   (Member)

Looks like 'The Alamo' has the green light to be restored, though still needs some funding. Maybe a full score CD is a little closer?


I was under the impression that Legacy Recordings
Item Number: SNY661382 contained all that was done for Alamo

As to the restoration, I'll happily contribute - not the greatest film maybe,but worth saving.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2009 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Looks like 'The Alamo' has the green light to be restored, though still needs some funding. Maybe a full score CD is a little closer?


I was under the impression that Legacy Recordings
Item Number: SNY661382 contained all that was done for Alamo

As to the restoration, I'll happily contribute - not the greatest film maybe,but worth saving.


The Sony CD (Legacy brand name)contained the entire LP contents along with a couple of other selections not included on LP (perhaps due to space limitations or the choice of having a couple of John Wayne dialgue sequences included over the music). The CD also included a few selections lifted right off the final mixed tracks complete with sound effects and meaningless dialog clips.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2009 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   ceb   (Member)


The Sony CD (Legacy brand name)contained the entire LP contents along with a couple of other selections not included on LP (perhaps due to space limitations or the choice of having a couple of John Wayne dialgue sequences included over the music). The CD also included a few selections lifted right off the final mixed tracks complete with sound effects and meaningless dialog clips.


Then there are still missing score elements?
if so any known status?

How do you react to the public being ask to contribute to the restoration?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2009 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I don't mind being asked, but the answer's no (I will buy the result). How about some of the big star actors & directors dipping in to their vast fortune to preserve the art they profess to love so much; & that has been very good to them.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2010 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Looks like 'The Alamo' has the green light to be restored, though still needs some funding. Maybe a full score CD is a little closer?


I was under the impression that Legacy Recordings
Item Number: SNY661382 contained all that was done for Alamo

As to the restoration, I'll happily contribute - not the greatest film maybe,but worth saving.


The Sony CD (Legacy brand name)contained the entire LP contents along with a couple of other selections not included on LP (perhaps due to space limitations or the choice of having a couple of John Wayne dialgue sequences included over the music). The CD also included a few selections lifted right off the final mixed tracks complete with sound effects and meaningless dialog clips.


I just acquired the Sony which contains about 66 minutes all in. My question: is this the best available containing OST material. Or does the Tadlow outstrip all else?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2010 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Unless you break out in hives from rerecordings, get the Tadlow. It's le aural fantastique.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2010 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Ta very much TerraEpon.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2010 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Looks like 'The Alamo' has the green light to be restored, though still needs some funding. Maybe a full score CD is a little closer?


I was under the impression that Legacy Recordings
Item Number: SNY661382 contained all that was done for Alamo

As to the restoration, I'll happily contribute - not the greatest film maybe,but worth saving.


The Sony CD (Legacy brand name)contained the entire LP contents along with a couple of other selections not included on LP (perhaps due to space limitations or the choice of having a couple of John Wayne dialgue sequences included over the music). The CD also included a few selections lifted right off the final mixed tracks complete with sound effects and meaningless dialog clips.


I just acquired the Sony which contains about 66 minutes all in. My question: is this the best available containing OST material. Or does the Tadlow outstrip all else?



I love the Tadlow recording. I recommend both recordings. (I like the dialog clips on the original score cd) After all the original has Chill Wills singing "Here's To The Ladies" and Marty Robbins singing The Ballad of The Alamo. The music for the final battle on the Tadlow is in its own way as breathtaking as the Tribute Charge of the Light Brigade final battle music.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2010 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I think the Tadlow does a magnificent job of recreating the verve and excitement of the original action music – something I didn't think anyone would be able to do. Everything else about it is top class too. One of the best re-recordings ever in my opinion.

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2014 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

I love the Tadlow Prometheus 3 disc set of the score, but time for a small nit.....in the cover of Marty Robbins classic Ballad of the Alamo...what the heck is a "scribble" gun? The word is squirrel.
Now back to our regularly scheduled score listening. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Someone sent me an almost complete 'Alamo' original soundtrack cassette way back in the early 90's. just after we had discovered a TODD-AO print in Toronto. To say there is much more than the Sony re-release is a vast understatement. The cassette I have which is minus dialogue and most sound effects alone contains nearly 90 minutes of music. The Tadlow recording is sensational. I've kept a tight rein on this cassette I have because I don't want to see it pirated but I did loan it to Tadlow at James Fitzpatrick's request to help them restore some score sequences which they were attempting to transcribe from SFX-heavy film tracks.

 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Well then Bob, the analog cassette would seem to have been correctly transcibed into a digital rendering via a people powered A to D converter!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

I love the Tadlow Prometheus 3 disc set of the score, but time for a small nit.....in the cover of Marty Robbins classic Ballad of the Alamo...what the heck is a "scribble" gun? The word is squirrel.


One other nit: the choir sings "...thirdeen days of glory..." rather than "thirteen". It's kind of irritating.
Very good re-recording though. One of Tadlow's most successful efforts.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 9:59 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Well then Bob, the analog cassette would seem to have been correctly transcibed into a digital rendering via a people powered A to D converter!

Wha? Huh?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2014 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   Regie   (Member)

I've just dug a bit deeper on this topic and it seems MGM isn't interested in restoration of this film, according to Robert Harris.

The music isn't a problem as it can be re-recorded at any time, but according to Harris the film itself - the one from which newer prints can be struck - is in very poor condition and deteriorating at a rate of knots!! He did say the magnetic sound track was also in bad shape. I would have thought with Todd-AO it would have been an optical sound track, but there were obviously other prints with magnetic sound-tracks and the optical is probably no longer available.

Should we be restoring film, given the unstable nature of celluloid? Which films should go and which should stay, because if they are not restored most will end up being able to be swept into a dustpan. And the whole area of restoration is problematic because the newer carrier will, itself, have a use-by date.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2014 - 11:39 PM   
 By:   Tadlow   (Member)

Someone sent me an almost complete 'Alamo' original soundtrack cassette way back in the early 90's. just after we had discovered a TODD-AO print in Toronto. To say there is much more than the Sony re-release is a vast understatement. The cassette I have which is minus dialogue and most sound effects alone contains nearly 90 minutes of music. The Tadlow recording is sensational. I've kept a tight rein on this cassette I have because I don't want to see it pirated but I did loan it to Tadlow at James Fitzpatrick's request to help them restore some score sequences which they were attempting to transcribe from SFX-heavy film tracks.

And a great help at the actual sessions your cassette was in terms of helping form the new recording and performance...many thanks for that

 
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