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 Posted:   Dec 20, 2008 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

I have no less than 3 questions about this handsome score by Elmer Bernstein:

1) does anyone know how much more music (if any, that is) is in the movie and not on the soundtrack ?

2) does anyone know whether the LP and CD releases differ ? I seem to recall hearing that while both had 13 tracks there was an extra selection of music on the CD but I'm not sure about this anymore

3) does anyone know whether the sound quality of the track on the Varese 4CD 25th Anniversary box is anyhow superior to the old 1987 CD ?

Thank you.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2008 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I have no less than 3 questions about this handsome score by Elmer Bernstein:

1) does anyone know how much more music (if any, that is) is in the movie and not on the soundtrack ?

2) does anyone know whether the LP and CD releases differ ? I seem to recall hearing that while both had 13 tracks there was an extra selection of music on the CD but I'm not sure about this anymore

3) does anyone know whether the sound quality of the track on the Varese 4CD 25th Anniversary box is anyhow superior to the old 1987 CD ?

Thank you.


I can't answer any of your questions Dorian but I would welcome a reissue of this fine Elmer score.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2008 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I'll have to compare the two. I lucked out and found a copy of the 1987 original 2 months ago for 7 bucks at Half Price books.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2008 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

The CD and LP content are the same, but I remember a track glitch on the old LP, re track numbers/titles (not unusual for Varese from that time). It's a great score, sounds wonderful on CD, and is available on amazon for various prices.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Just finished listening to my new Encore release of this score - and the difference between the old release and the new is - I NOW LOVE THIS SCORE and thought it rather bland before. The sound quality is so rich and powerful and brings out every nuance - and there are so many - of this great latter-day Elmer score. Wonderful release.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Richard May   (Member)

Just finished listening to my new Encore release of this score - and the difference between the old release and the new is - I NOW LOVE THIS SCORE and thought it rather bland before. The sound quality is so rich and powerful and brings out every nuance - and there are so many - of this great latter-day Elmer score. Wonderful release.

Despite having a fairly extensive Bernstein collection, this one was brand new to me. What a score! It's almost like a long lost Bernstein western score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Just finished listening to my new Encore release of this score - and the difference between the old release and the new is - I NOW LOVE THIS SCORE and thought it rather bland before. The sound quality is so rich and powerful and brings out every nuance - and there are so many - of this great latter-day Elmer score. Wonderful release.

Despite having a fairly extensive Bernstein collection, this one was brand new to me. What a score! It's almost like a long lost Bernstein western score.


Exactly Richard. I'm amazed i didn't pay more attention to this score when it was first released. Taken on it's own merits (I have no idea about the film itself) it's absolutely glorious. I was also thinking it's like one of his great, expansive westerns! The attention to detail in every cue is superb. I usually pick 'best cues' to load into my computer - but this one is being loaded complete!

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Sorry, I can't get past that infernal Ondes Martinote, which sounds like the old "musical saw" that guys in plaid jackets used to play on Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour. The melodies seem pleasant enough otherwise.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Sorry, I can't get past that infernal Ondes Martinote, which sounds like the old "musical saw" that guys in plaid jackets used to play on Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour. The melodies seem pleasant enough otherwise.

That is definitely one of the reasons I under-valued this score initially - but with the new mastering I've had a chance to realize that he uses it quite sparingly here (as opposed to other scores from the period) and the bulk of the score is traditional orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2012 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Sorry, I can't get past that infernal Ondes Martinote, which sounds like the old "musical saw" that guys in plaid jackets used to play on Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour. The melodies seem pleasant enough otherwise.

It's true that EB's scores in the 1980s display an irritating overuse of the ondes martenot, but AGaC is one of his finest of the decade, along with Marie Ward and Slipstream (certainly not Ghostbusters).

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2012 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

This is the score i have played the most the past two months. When Varèse announced this title as a Varèse Encore release I asked my dad to send me through mail the first release i had never heard before and i don't know why. Too many scores maybe, other priorities, and a mistrust toward Bernstein's scores from the 80s -- and its upsetting use of the Ondes Martenot. But after reading so many positive reviews i decided to give this score a break. And i did right. The first bars of track 01 are among the most touching i have ever heard so far. The rest of the score is awesome, both exalting and introspective. Elmer Bernstein is simply waving goodbye to a time that won't be back. And i have simply felt in love with that score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2012 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   welwynfilmstudios   (Member)

This is the score i have played the most the past two months. When Varèse announced this title as a Varèse Encore release I asked my dad to send me through mail the first release i had never heard before and i don't know why. Too many scores maybe, other priorities, and a mistrust toward Bernstein's scores from the 80s -- and its upsetting use of the Ondes Martenot. But after reading so many positive reviews i decided to give this score a break. And i did right. The first bars of track 01 are among the most touching i have ever heard so far. The rest of the score is awesome, both exalting and introspective. Elmer Bernstein is simply waving goodbye to a time that won't be back. And i have simply felt in love with that score.

Anabel,
I was very pleased when Varese announced this score. It had been on my list to get, but with the prices on EBay being quite high, it was only a matter of time before Varese reissued it. Another Bernstein score I wish somebody would release is The Amazing Mr Blunden, a lovely British film directed by Lionel Jeffries.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2012 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

Another Bernstein score I wish somebody would release is The Amazing Mr Blunden, a lovely British film directed by Lionel Jeffries.

A movie i dear very much that deals with the thematic of time travelling i dear very much too. I'm sure we eventually will be rewarded with such an awesome release. Look how many years it took to release that other divine score, FROM NOON TILL THREE. Any ideas about a potential producer regarding owners' right?

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2012 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

From Varèse website :

Fewer than 60 copies remaining

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2012 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   morrifan   (Member)

still on sale (14 euros) at Intermezzo Media

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2012 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I know Elmer always admitted to being inspired by the music of Aaron Copland, but this score, to me at least, sounds like his MOST Copland influenced score.
Hardly a track goes by where there isn't a lift from a previous Copland work.
This isn't meant as any criticism. I'm sure Elmer had real fun dropping those AC-bombs into this beautiful score.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2013 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

After listening to the gorgeous samples, I've just ordered this score from Varese's website. Can't believe this 1000 CD release hasn't sold out though Varese say there are less than 30 left.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2014 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   JSDouglas   (Member)

When becoming a fan of Elmer Bernstein's music you soon realize that, despite the breadth of his talent in various styles of music from jazz to classical, you are dealing with a quintessentially American musical voice. And while this is writ large over many glorious western film scores, it appears at its most basic in scores like AMAZING GRACE AND CHUCK.

I've never had an opportunity of seeing this film (and I gather I'm not in the minority) so I only have the Varese Sarabande soundtrack album to reckon with. My impression is of a Capra-esque tale of the little guy taking a stand against mightier forces - in this instance a kid opposing nuclear proliferation. The score makes the two sides distinctive with warm Americana for the boy and his family against eerie & unsettling music for the "nukes."

The score is immediately likable with so much of that warmth that we associate with the Bernstein of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD fame. The Ondes Martenot is a large element of this score and is a valuable asset in establishing the dire nature of the nuclear threat. My reaction to the Ondes in Bernstein's scoring post HEAVY METAL has mellowed over the years. I used to find it irritating, but it never prevented me from enjoying new scores by the composer.

Although I don't consider AMAZING GRACE AND CHUCK among Bernstein's finest, I can't deny it is a lovely score that makes for an entertaining listen - from the relaxed opening and closing music to the dynamic outbursts found throughout ("Amazing" & "The Movement") the CD has a beautiful flow. I only own the original Varese disc which still sounds good to me. I'm glad the score has found new admirers since the Varese Club Encore re-issue - this music should not fade into obscurity.

JSD

 
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