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 Posted:   Nov 26, 2008 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Happy Thanksgiving.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2008 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Great art it certainly isn't. The last time I watched it, I was appalled by the paint by the numbers disaster scenario and characters with the accompanied dialog. Still, it has certain momemts. My parents took us to see it Easter Sunday in 1970. I did like it then, and the movie was a massive box office hit.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2008 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I like all 4 of the Airport films. They're full of memorable appearances, great cinematography and editing, outstanding and eternally memorable scores, and Chuck Heston has one of the funniest bits of dialogue of the genre toward the end of Airport 1975 (which became a thing in '80s action films that I don't think he ever got credit for).

Yeah, they're silly, but it's good corn.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2008 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I read somewhere that Burt Lancaster thought it was a tremendously bad movie, he just did it for the dough. It was the last true hit he was ever in, in terms of big B O.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2008 - 8:57 PM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I read somewhere that Burt Lancaster thought it was a tremendously bad movie, he just did it for the dough. It was the last true hit he was ever in, in terms of big B O.

Although many of his films pong a bit.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2008 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

This film holds a fairly insignificant place in my moviegoing memories, but when you speak of AIRPORT, you are also speaking of a big, VERY influential, all-star film which kicked off the infinite series of disaster films including THE TOWERING INFERNO, THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE, EARTHQUAKE, THE SWARM, the succeeding AIRPORTS, and many, many more, and pretty much continues to this day.

You may laugh 40 years after the production of AIRPORT, but wait 'til you see 2008's movies 40 years from now!

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2008 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Heston commented on the genre in his TCM interview with Robert Osborne. He said that everybody did them because they paid really well and it was usually only a few days work for the small supporting performers. He didn't comment on whether he found them to be good or bad.

It really seems no different to me than any big budget action or adventure spectacle of any decade, though these days the money is often spent more on the technical aspects than huge casts of big stars. One or two big names, and the rest goes to the visual effects, etc. (or sometimes no big names at all). And generally speaking, I still prefer genre thrillers of this nature from the '70s over just about any disaster or big effects film of this decade.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2008 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

Heston commented on the genre in his TCM interview with Robert Osborne. He said that everybody did them because they paid really well and it was usually only a few days work for the small supporting performers. He didn't comment on whether he found them to be good or bad.

It really seems no different to me than any big budget action or adventure spectacle of any decade, though these days the money is often spent more on the technical aspects than huge casts of big stars. One or two big names, and the rest goes to the visual effects, etc. (or sometimes no big names at all). And generally speaking, I still prefer genre thrillers of this nature from the '70s over just about any disaster or big effects film of this decade.


At least those earlier films made some attempt at a plot and character development, compared to today's big movies.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2008 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

ONYABIRRI:

I watched THE BETSY on dvd for the first time the other night--THAT has to be the stupidest movie ever.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2008 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I loved the film on the big 70mm Todd-AO screen in 1970, and I still love it. What a great score, too!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2008 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

You may laugh 40 years after the production of AIRPORT, but wait 'til you see 2008's movies 40 years from now!

Oh my heaven's time will be justifiably cruel to our output (film and otherwise) this and the previous decade will hopefully be classified as the most egotistically pompous self satisfied under-achieving load of piss that it is/was.
If not then only because it got even worse and given that a child from bad parents has a bad start, I wouldn't be surprised when 40 years from now it will get worse only because we planted such bad seeds in such fertile soil (the only thing we have been good at the past 18 years).

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2008 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I like the film for it's luscious looks (old school system Hollywood giving it's last send of in grand colours, costumes, sets and vehicles).

The thing that ruined it for me is that suck awful cow "Mrs. Quanset", the "funny" "loveable" element in the film. They should have used her old cadaver to dampen the impact of the bomb. Better yet: they should have had her hauled away by the cops and have her LAPD'd behind some hangar somewhere. Damn that croaker gets on my nerves.

For the rest I really like this film and I am going to watch and enjoy it again tonight (who knows maybe tonight that $%&** might be sucked in one of the engines).

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2008 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I like the film for it's luscious looks (old school system Hollywood giving it's last send of in grand colours, costumes, sets and vehicles).

The thing that ruined it for me is that suck awful cow "Mrs. Quanset", the "funny" "loveable" element in the film. They should have used her old cadaver to dampen the impact of the bomb. Better yet: they should have had her hauled away by the cops and have her LAPD'd behind some hangar somewhere. Damn that croaker gets on my nerves.

For the rest I really like this film and I am going to watch and enjoy it again tonight (who knows maybe tonight that $%&** might be sucked in one of the engines).

D.S.


The film is slick and sleek. In 1970, it was a major boxoffice smash. The cast is sterling. Even if one didn't care for Mrs. Quonset, it had a precedent with the Margaret Rutherford character in the earlier fogbound airport movie "The V.I.P.s." Both actresses won Oscars for those roles.

But it was Maureen Stapleton's performance as Inez Guerrero in "Airport" that elevates the movie's pedigree significantly, aided by a stolid Burt Lancaster, a humorously rugged George Kennedy (off a recent Oscar win for "Cool Hand Luke"), and a terrific Dean Martin in an assured and appealing performance. Even Jacqueline Bisset's character was appealing and sympathetic. The supporting actress Oscar should have been given to Stapleton but in those years, for some reason, such Oscars went to character actors who had been passed over for the awards as leading actors or actresses in years past.

And, to be sure, Alfred Newman's masterful score helped this film soar. It's a wonderfully entertaining film.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2008 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   Suicide is imminent   (Member)

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 Posted:   Nov 30, 2008 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

You may laugh 40 years after the production of AIRPORT, but wait 'til you see 2008's movies 40 years from now!

Oh my heaven's time will be justifiably cruel to our output (film and otherwise) this and the previous decade will hopefully be classified as the most egotistically pompous self satisfied under-achieving load of piss that it is/was.
If not then only because it got even worse and given that a child from bad parents has a bad start, I wouldn't be surprised when 40 years from now it will get worse only because we planted such bad seeds in such fertile soil (the only thing we have been good at the past 18 years).

D.S.


Stu, I wonder that 20 or 30 years from now, what current films will be remade? roll eyes eek

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2008 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

I like the film for it's luscious looks (old school system Hollywood giving it's last send of in grand colours, costumes, sets and vehicles).

The thing that ruined it for me is that suck awful cow "Mrs. Quanset", the "funny" "loveable" element in the film. They should have used her old cadaver to dampen the impact of the bomb. Better yet: they should have had her hauled away by the cops and have her LAPD'd behind some hangar somewhere. Damn that croaker gets on my nerves.

For the rest I really like this film and I am going to watch and enjoy it again tonight (who knows maybe tonight that $%&** might be sucked in one of the engines).

D.S.


Don't forget, Helen Hayes won an Oscar for that performance.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2008 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

GACKKKKK! THE DREADED DOUBLE POST STRIKES AGAIN!!! embarrassment big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2008 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Don't forget, Helen Hayes won an Oscar for that performance.

That makes it even worse. But as Ron Pulliman stated: "The supporting actress Oscar should have been given to Stapleton but in those years, for some reason, such Oscars went to character actors who had been passed over for the awards as leading actors or actresses in years past."

I think it was mr. Bettencourt who stated that he found the fact that Maureen Stapleton didn't win the oscar was particularly galling considering the oscar DID go to that Hayes woman.

Oscars: never meant anything good to me and most likely never will as it is 90% politics and 10% marketing. Some people ask:`Does this make me look fat`. The academy group asks: ´Does attaching my vote to this make me look more artistic and accepted in the eyes of the crowd I so desperately want to belong to`.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2008 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Stu, I wonder that 20 or 30 years from now, what current films will be remade? roll eyes eek

Well, take a film that doesn´t need it and you might be close. The current trend is to substitute a creative process by using old ideas and just make a big screen version of successful TV series of the 60´s to 80´s.
Maybe 30 years from now they will take the most popular computer games and make them into films, killing several birds with one stone:
- Not needing to think out anything themselves
- Doing something trendy by doing something that was already done 30- 40 years ago namely not thinking out something new.
- Doing something trendy by doing something that was already done 30- 40 years ago namely making films of computergames.
Who knows they might even make it 3D and sensuround so we can experience in maximum agony.

Lord o lord does that make me not look forward to that segment of future film output.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2008 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

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