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 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I totally love the Tadlow Recording of THE SALAMANDER. I think Jerry would be very proud and honored by the Orchestra's performance and the class of the CD and all involved.

And hands down I think we can say no one ever scored a better Jock Strap wresting match!

How cool for the maestro to be inspired by Franco Nero's Nut Sack!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 9:57 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

oops

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 10:01 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

I absolutely concur Zoob, a totally first class recording of Goldsmith's work, I think part of which made me reconsider the score...a lotta love there. The youtube vids of the recording sessions were awesome too.

And yes, the "nut sack" scene must be seen to be believed big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

It's absolutely Superb!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN2_1Ar6C0M

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

This must be the strangest thread ever. It starts out with a poster dissing film and score and others agreeing, and ends with still others agreeing the score is brilliant. (Not the film though, notwithstanding Nero de Nutsack).
I must admit I was astonished when this score was first proposed as a Tadlow project. I had never heard of the film, and I'm a film buff (It's entirely understandable that anything with Franco Nero in it would go under my radar). I couldn't think of any good reason why Tadlow would want to do this, and despite now having heard the End Titles I still can't. I hope it did well, and good luck to all who bought it, but it still seems to me the weirdest choice in Tadlow's history.
Just my 2c.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

There was only one poster who dissed the score early on (peterproud) and it was a fairly mild dis, without ever having heard the score as music outside the terrible movie.

I think the score is incredibly powerful and exciting, and it's one of my favorite Tadlow recordings.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

It's only a strange release if you have no recognition of Goldsmith's position among collectors, at least for the past few decades (demography and the decline of the record industry have diminished that). The Salamander is one of the only scores from one of the most prolific and best-loved periods of Goldsmith's output to not have any kind of record release. And it's an action/thriller score, the sort of subject matter that never failed to inspire the composer to produce something exciting back in the day. I think it's a fascinating curiosity along the lines of Caboblanco, another "international" production no one remembers with a comparatively brief but fairly rich score by Goldsmith (and another one that was long unreleased).
Goldsmith has been dead now for more than a dozen years and it may be difficult for some to understand what a revered figure he was and to many collectors still is. He's still my favorite composer and I would be perfectly happy if (and still hope to see) every note he ever recorded committed to record.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   Tadlow   (Member)

This must be the strangest thread ever. It starts out with a poster dissing film and score and others agreeing, and ends with still others agreeing the score is brilliant. (Not the film though, notwithstanding Nero de Nutsack).
I must admit I was astonished when this score was first proposed as a Tadlow project. I had never heard of the film, and I'm a film buff (It's entirely understandable that anything with Franco Nero in it would go under my radar). I couldn't think of any good reason why Tadlow would want to do this, and despite now having heard the End Titles I still can't. I hope it did well, and good luck to all who bought it, but it still seems to me the weirdest choice in Tadlow's history.
Just my 2c.


How many times do I have to say this about Prometheus Releases...it was not a Tadlow project...I was for hire as producer and contractor, Choice of subject was not mine! However I was of course delighted by Luc van de Ven to be given the chance to record Alamo, Quo Vadis, Conans, Hour of Gun, Salamander, Thief of Bagdad, Duel in the Sun...and especially QBVII and Fall of the Roman Empire.....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   mild_cigar   (Member)

I love this score, this release was amazing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   mild_cigar   (Member)

I love this score, this release was amazing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

How many times do I have to say this about Prometheus Releases...it was not a Tadlow project...I was for hire as producer and contractor, Choice of subject was not mine! However I was of course delighted by Luc van de Ven to be given the chance to record Alamo, Quo Vadis, Conans, Hour of Gun, Salamander, Thief of Bagdad, Duel in the Sun...and especially QBVII and Fall of the Roman Empire.....

Not referring to whether it was your choice or Luc's, simply to the odd enthusiasm of fans for a score to a film that few besides themselves could have seen. You would think the very obscurity of the film would pretty much guarantee a lack of interest in the score, even if it's in fact a masterpiece. However, since it seems my 2c is in fact only worth 1c, I'll withdraw my puzzlement and acknowledge that this is a brilliant score which, presumably, hopefully, at least broke even.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Sorry to break this to you, but James has repeatedly told us that only Conan, El Cid, and maybe Lawrence of Arabia have broken even. He and Luc almost ALWAYS lose money on these projects; they've kind of accepted that and just hope to lose as little as possible.

Goldsmith is pretty inarguably the most popular film composer of all time, among film music fans (speaking sales-wise). The specialty labels have repeatedly said that he is the most reliable seller across the board. The Salamander was the only remaining totally unreleased post-1980 Goldsmith score, so Luc's decision to record it made perfect sense, even though it would certainly have sold a lot better twenty -- or even ten -- years earlier.

Yavar

P.S. Goldsmith fans have LONG ago learned not to put much stock by the quality of the film itself when it comes to his music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2017 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

No need to be sorry; I'm aware of the lack of financial reward in these enterprises. My question really was, how did so many people get to see a film that apparently didn't even get a theatrical release---not just see it but so fall in love with the music they would want a new recording of every note. Yes, it's Goldsmith, and I'm a bit of a Goldsmith man myself, but he wrote so many scores, sometimes in the same year, they can't all be brilliant, or even collectible.

Ah well, obviously I'm not in the Goldsmith inner sanctum; such mysteries are closed to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

There's a blu-ray on the way, if anyone is interested:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Salamander-Blu-ray/164805/

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

talking of this Goldsmith classic wasn't there some comment here about someone saying the tapes for this score had been found at the Rome studio where it was recorded? Or was that bull?

 
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