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 Posted:   Aug 3, 2008 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   dwho   (Member)

How do you guys feel about the Doctor Who music?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2008 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

How do you guys feel about the Doctor Who music?

Which era in particular? Presumably you're referring to Murray Gold? He's okay. Some of his stuff is fine, some of it is terrible.

 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2008 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   dwho   (Member)

Any era , how about your favorite era ?
I do love what Murray Gold has done but I really enjoy the older music too, Baker/Davidson for example.

this isnt the era above but one of my favorite cds is the 25th anniversary cd, mostly from Silvester McCoy's period as the Doctor.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2008 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Sir Patrick Spens   (Member)

By era-
The first Doctor era really had some interesting spots, mainly Richard Rodney Bennett's score to The Aztecs and Francis Chagrin's percussive approach on Dalek Invasion of Earth. I have a soft spot to the score for Keys of Marinus, too.
Second Doc-Dug the use of Bartok in Enemy of the World, and Dudley Simpson's score to Seeeds of Death.
Third Doc's music really went downhill once season 8 kicked in, and Dudley Simpson went with a much more synthetic approach. It wasn't bad, but not as good as his stuff for, say, Ambassadors of Death. Carey Blyton's work on the three or so stories he did are just wierd, and Malcolm Clarke's sole Pertwee score is damn near unlistenable.
Dudley Simpson's score to City of Death, though, is simply bliss. Geoff Burgon's (sp?) work is rather good too. not ear grabbing, but very atmospheric.
Once JNT took over and the scores went synthy, the best composers between 81-88 would probably be Peter Howell and Mark Ayers.
Keff McCullogh's stuff was just...not even going to say it. As for Mr. Gold's work? Quite good, certainly the biggest and most epic sound Doctor Who ever had, but his stuff he wrote for Eccleston's season was comparitavely low-key, IMO.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2008 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Sir Patrick Spens   (Member)

And the TVM music had it's moments. Sounded very sort of hollow and keyboard-y at times though.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2008 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Dudley Simpson was and is THE BOSS.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2008 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Let's not forget Paddy Kingsland and his scores for
Meglos
Full Circle
State of Decay
Logopolis
Castrovalva
The Visitation
Mawdryn Undead
Frontios

And Malcolm Clarke for Earthshock.
What a true Doctor Who classic.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2008 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Dudley Simpson was and is THE BOSS.

Agreed 100%

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2008 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Dudley Simpson was and is THE BOSS.

Agreed 100%


Mope about past glories if you want; not wanting to devalue Mr Simpson's achievements, but I'm really enjoying Murray Gold's contribution to the series. Arguably it's mixed a bit high on the show, but on disc it's marvellous.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2008 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   Sir Patrick Spens   (Member)

Dudley Simpson really did bring a unique voice to the show. I especially love what he did for Pertwee's first season and Tom Baker's second to last.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2008 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Dudley Simpson was and is THE BOSS.

Agreed 100%


Mope about past glories if you want


Mope? Who's moping? I think the word you're struggling for is "celebrate".

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2008 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

As 2008 is the 30th anniversary of Blakes 7, it would have nice to see some kind of CD release. Even better if Silva Screen had done something to mark the event. After all, they are a British label.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2008 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

Gold's mutilation of the main theme is too much for me. Why they couldn't have just left alone the remastered stereo version od Derbyshire's original is anyone's guess. Gold turned an iconic TV theme into yet more Zimmerised gash that's saturated the artform.

Funny how most people tend to associate WHO with either Derbyshire's rubber band oscillators, or a Yamaha CS80 (Howell).

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2009 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Dudley Simpson interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11hglLEH1Rg

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2009 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Dudley Simpson interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11hglLEH1Rg



Thanks for posting that clip - it's a pity that it's been edited in a fairly rough and ready manner (Simpson's continually cut off mid sentence).

Watching some of the 'new' Doctor Who stories recently, I find Murray Gold's music a bit overblown to be honest. Having said that, I do find it a much more enjoyable listen on CD, even if ultimately (to me anyway) it's just a little bit unmemorable.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2009 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

love the old music, love the new music, and yes I have it all.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2009 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Dudley Simpson interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11hglLEH1Rg



Thanks for posting that clip - it's a pity that it's been edited in a fairly rough and ready manner (Simpson's continually cut off mid sentence).

Watching some of the 'new' Doctor Who stories recently, I find Murray Gold's music a bit overblown to be honest. Having said that, I do find it a much more enjoyable listen on CD, even if ultimately (to me anyway) it's just a little bit unmemorable.


I was wondering if Dudley's scores still exist at the BBC? I would like to see a release of his Blakes 7 music.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2009 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I was wondering if Dudley's scores still exist at the BBC? I would like to see a release of his Blakes 7 music.

Apparently not in the case of Doctor Who - which is why there are no isolated scores of his music on the DVDs and why all the CDs containing his music have been re-recordings.

Not sure about Blake's 7... presumably lost as well?

It's a tragedy.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2009 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

As I recently said in another thread, I'm on the fence when it comes to Gold. I think some things are wonderful (like the Martha Jones theme), but other things kinda "meh", standard action/MV-style music with a somewhat more elaborate orchestral set-up. But I'd definitely like to explore it further. For some reason, I always assumed he was an ol' geezer that had been around since the original WHO, and was surprised to discover that he was only 40.

I'm not familar with any other WHO music (yet), as the recent series is all I have seen (except the very first DR. WHO episode from 1963, "The Unearthly Child").

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2009 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

I was wondering if Dudley's scores still exist at the BBC? I would like to see a release of his Blakes 7 music.

Apparently not in the case of Doctor Who - which is why there are no isolated scores of his music on the DVDs and why all the CDs containing his music have been re-recordings.

Not sure about Blake's 7... presumably lost as well?

It's a tragedy.


It would seem so. I saw this at http://www.dudleysimpson.com/dw_music.htm

The tragic part of the story, even more so than Dudley being taken off the job, is the fact that the BBC destroyed all of the original music tapes of his scores for Doctor Who. Apparently they thought the music alone would never be of interest to anyone! Years after his Dr Who days, Dudley himself requested copies of his old music from the BBC and was notified of this sad fact. The good news is, Mark Ayres of the DW Restoration Team has announced that some of Dudley scores for Dr Who have been recovered, and may one day see the light of day in the form of a CD Release. That's all he can tell us at the moment, but I sincerely hope that we will have the privilege of hearing it soon...


 
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