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 Posted:   May 16, 2008 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

So, I am listening to cd no.2 of VARESE THIRTIETH ANNIVERSARY set...
The first 17 tracks nearly put me to sleep; more wailing female vocals and pseudo- ethnic stylings...

..and then track 18, nine minutes of transcendent soul lifting Africana from TEARS OF THE SUN composed by Hans Zimmer

as in his glorious THE LION KING, Hanz proves, once again, his singular skill in composing and arranging music based on styles first developed on the African continent.

German born, English raised - who would thunk it?!

Has anyone here seen the film?
Any comments on it and the score?

BRUCE R> MARSHALL


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 Posted:   May 17, 2008 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

That's HanS, not HanZ.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2008 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   ColSharpe   (Member)

That's HanS, not HanZ.

HanZ lol

Same mistake on the front cover of The Whole Wide World (Mojo Trax)



NB! This is first pressing with misspelling and only 9 out of 12 tracks are playable.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Mr. Marshall, wonderful thread topic as there is much to talk about here (in the right company, of course).

Maestro Zimmer has worked with world music for much of his career, and by the time Tears of the Sun came around his "sound of Africa" was perfected. While Tears of the Sun is a particular favorite, we should begin our discussion of the African Journey with 1992's The Power of One...



The final album track, "Mother Africa (Reprise)," is one of Zimmer's most bold and beautiful cues. And like much on this soundtrack it lifts my spirits. Zimmer's and Lebo M. revisit some of the ideas within this piece for The Lion King (primarily when the chorus gets a little darker within the one minute mark). The strength of this score lies in Zimmer's employment of African choir, with their regional chants playing alongside his percussion and additional musical accompaniment. The Lion King and Tears of the Sun vocal contributor Lebo M. also makes a strong appearance here and it's easy to see why Zimmer collaborated with him onwards. I dare anyone to not feel spiritually lifted when the song reaches its heights around the 3-4 minutes mark.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

My favorite cue in Tears of the Sun is the one by Jablonsky!

I will revisit the Power of One later today and maybe then will have something more to contribute to this discussion. Until then, carry on!

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

That's HanS, not HanZ.

No, it's HAN$.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

My favorite cue in Tears of the Sun is the one by Jablosnky!

From what I am to understand (though the source was through a personal discussion with a fellow film score buff), Jablonsky only contributed the beginning two minutes of track 9 -- and his contribution is still a "variation on a theme by HZ" -- and the remaining explosive and propulsive action music was by Zimmer.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Zimmer's african journey of course started with A World Apart in 1988:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbihUX5Kr3M

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I still maintain that Zimmer is at his VERY best when he's able to operate with various exotic/ethnic textures -- whether it's African, Asian, Arabian or you-name-it. In fact, that particular aspect is one of the most important reasons for why he's one of my favourite composers.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

So, I am listening to cd no.2 of VARESE THIRTIETH ANNIVERSARY set...
The first 17 tracks nearly put me to sleep; more wailing female vocals and pseudo- ethnic stylings.../endquote]

1. Sea of Dreams (Luis Bacalov) Sea of Dreams (2:39)
2. Beat The Drum (Klaus Badelt / Ramin Djawadi) The Village (5:31)
3. Duma (John Debney) Xan And Duma Say Goodbye (3:23)
4. Blood Diamond (James Newton Howard) Solomon Vandy (2:11)
5. The Quiet American (Craig Armstrong) The Quiet American (5:58)
6. The Gospel of John (Jeff Danna) Follow Me (4:35)
7. Water (Mychael Danna) House of Windows (5:20)
8. Partition (Brian Tyler) Partition (2:54)
9. As You Like It (Patrick Doyle) Violin Romance (5:05)
10. Nomad (Carlo Siliotto) Kazakhstan 1710 (2:55)
11. Lost (Michael Giacchino) Parting Words (5:32)
12. United 93 (John Powell) Dedication (3:53)
13. Beyond Borders (James Horner) Chechnya IV (6:11)
14. Goodbye Bafana (Dario Marianelli) The Harbour (3:45)
15. Flight of the Phoenix (Marco Beltrami) Heat Dream (4:23)
16. Carnivale (Jeff Beal) Carnivàle End Title (Ben's Theme) (1:05)
17. Out of Time (Graeme Revell) Out Of Time Theme (4:10)


So, decently crafted music puts you to sleep, while Hansi's music ...

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Mr. Marshall, wonderful thread topic as there is much to talk about here (in the right company, of course).

Maestro Zimmer has worked with world music for much of his career, and by the time Tears of the Sun came around his "sound of Africa" was perfected. While Tears of the Sun is a particular favorite, we should begin our discussion of the African Journey with 1992's The Power of One...

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I have it and love it.
Avoid the film at all costs - its an all-time worst piece of crap.
The album works without seeing the film because, as you mentioned, the songs are complete unto themselves and do not serve as underscore.

smile
bruce

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

So, I am listening to cd no.2 of VARESE THIRTIETH ANNIVERSARY set...
The first 17 tracks nearly put me to sleep; more wailing female vocals and pseudo- ethnic stylings.../endquote]

1. Sea of Dreams (Luis Bacalov) Sea of Dreams (2:39)
2. Beat The Drum (Klaus Badelt / Ramin Djawadi) The Village (5:31)
3. Duma (John Debney) Xan And Duma Say Goodbye (3:23)
4. Blood Diamond (James Newton Howard) Solomon Vandy (2:11)
5. The Quiet American (Craig Armstrong) The Quiet American (5:58)
6. The Gospel of John (Jeff Danna) Follow Me (4:35)
7. Water (Mychael Danna) House of Windows (5:20)
8. Partition (Brian Tyler) Partition (2:54)
9. As You Like It (Patrick Doyle) Violin Romance (5:05)
10. Nomad (Carlo Siliotto) Kazakhstan 1710 (2:55)
11. Lost (Michael Giacchino) Parting Words (5:32)
12. United 93 (John Powell) Dedication (3:53)
13. Beyond Borders (James Horner) Chechnya IV (6:11)
14. Goodbye Bafana (Dario Marianelli) The Harbour (3:45)
15. Flight of the Phoenix (Marco Beltrami) Heat Dream (4:23)
16. Carnivale (Jeff Beal) Carnivàle End Title (Ben's Theme) (1:05)
17. Out of Time (Graeme Revell) Out Of Time Theme (4:10)


So, decently crafted music puts you to sleep, while Hansi's music ...


well, i do like THE QUIET AMERICAN.....

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2013 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I HAVE AN EXTRA COPY of "Power of ONe" if anyone wants it
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2013 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)



Yor, I dislike Zimmer's recent stufff and his deadening effect on film music almost as much as you do, but even you must admit that this is the kind of thing Zimmer does [or did]well?

 
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