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 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

The Twilight Zone is my bread and butter type TV programming. Its smart without being self-involved, artful without being arty and above all fun.

I really like the music and many years ago bought that wonderful four disc Silva set. Ive played it several times and its a joy to listen to once in a while.

Now, I've seen the Varese CDs kicking around for years but have never had a chance to get them. Am I missing something here? Can someone compare the quality of the recordings between the two? Is the Varese material "better" than the Silva?

I'm just looking for a breakdown.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

same music, different packaging

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

The Silva set does include some Herrmann stock music not on the Varese CDs--"The Hitchhiker" radio score and the "Outer Space Suite" if I recall correctly.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   LRobHubbard   (Member)

Ditto.

Wouldn't turn 'em down, if you come across them... but if you want the entire run, the Silva set has it all in one package.

Do you have the Varese 2 CD set of Herrmann TZ scores conducted by Joel McNeely? Definitely worth picking up as it has TZ/Herrmann music not available before (the suites for "The Eye of the Beholder" and "Little Girl Lost", among others.)

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

One exception - the 2 CD set of Herrmann TZ scores conducted by Joel McNeely. Definitely worth picking up as it has TZ/Herrmann music not available before (the suites for "The Eye of the Beholder" and "Little Girl Lost", among others.)

I've been eyeing that set for years now - but what with Intrada and FSM putting out such amazing stuff, I've never gotten around to it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 3:52 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Ditto.

Wouldn't turn either down, if you come across them... but if you want the entire run, the Silva set has it all in one package.
And you may spend less than if you attempt to get all the Varese releases.

One exception - the 2 CD set of Herrmann TZ scores conducted by Joel McNeely. Definitely worth picking up as it has TZ/Herrmann music not available before (the suites for "The Eye of the Beholder" and "Little Girl Lost", among others.)


Yep. The 4-disc set plus the McNeely set are the ones to have. The 4-disc set sounds better to me than the Varese releases, but you know...it's subjective and my ears and your ears may not hear the same difference in quality.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I kept my Varese TZ lp's 'cause they have much better liner notes and photos.
brm

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I kept my Varese TZ lp's 'cause they have much better liner notes and photos.
brm


Yeah, I still have my original Varese LP's, along with the Silva 4-disc set. In fact, I still have my 2-volume "Best Of" Varese CD's.

These, along with the great DVD box sets (with isolated scores), I think I have the music from TZ covered pretty well...:-)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   Suicide is imminent   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Does the 4 cd Silva set contain everything that was released on that 5 volume set released by SLCS?. Got to get off the comp so don't have time at the moment to look them up on soundtrack collector.

YES!

It also contains Bernard Herrmann's score to the radio verison of THE HITCHHIKER which was reused in the TZ version of the same story as well.

In addition it also contains Herrman OUTER SPACE SUITE which was commissioned for the CBS Production Library and was used quite a bit TZ, alot of it shows up in THIRD FROM THE SUN.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2008 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   Ichabod Slipp   (Member)

Please forgive my ramblings.I probably irritate some people but I can't help my enthusiasm.

I for one find that I love Van Cleave's TZ music equally as much as I love Herrmann's and Goldsmith's brilliant contributions. I feel Van Cleave is underappreciated and overlooked by most. Enjoy his bizarre,over-the-top usage of the electronic instruments in his scores PERCHANCE TO DREAM and A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. He and Herrmann were equally imaginative and daring in their useage of the theremin and what not.

ELEGY I'm especially fond of because it appears in my all time favorite TZ episode TWENTY TWO. But the scary music that appears in the climax that follows the terrified woman step by step, getting stronger and stronger as she prepares to board flight 22 I sure would love to have that! And it's not in the ELEGY suite but that music does sound like Van Cleave's and noone else.

I wish/hope that one day all 12 of Van Cleave's scores would be available. As well as any unused music he might've written. For now I'll content myself with the 5 fine,fine scores that are available on the Silva TZ set.

Finally THE HITCHHIKER by Herrmann on the Silva release is really great. I especially love the grim processional theme that starts 4 minutes into the score and keeps going and going. Reminds me of his CAPE FEAR theme.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2008 - 1:16 AM   
 By:   Suicide is imminent   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 15, 2008 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

I also suggest getting the two volumes of music from Barnard Herrmann - The CBS Years. These are wonderful companions to the Twilight Zone albums, as is the CBS Westerns CD. Some of this music I believe was used on the show, but I'm not 100% on this.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2008 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   Suicide is imminent   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 26, 2008 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   Suicide is imminent   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 26, 2008 - 10:06 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I also suggest getting the two volumes of music from Barnard Herrmann - The CBS Years. These are wonderful companions to the Twilight Zone albums, as is the CBS Westerns CD. Some of this music I believe was used on the show, but I'm not 100% on this.

Be certain. The cue entitled "The Ambush" was used in that TZ ep with Albert Salmi as the bandit in the Old West about to be hung who is transported into the future. Great episode.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2008 - 2:19 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

The cue entitled "The Ambush" was used in that TZ ep with Albert Salmi as the bandit in the Old West about to be hung who is transported into the future. Great episode.

So strange - I enjoy this episode and yet the TZ book that comes with the "new" DVD set for season 1 trashes the episode.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2008 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

The cue entitled "The Ambush" was used in that TZ ep with Albert Salmi as the bandit in the Old West about to be hung who is transported into the future. Great episode.

So strange - I enjoy this episode and yet the TZ book that comes with the "new" DVD set for season 1 trashes the episode.


That book trashes a lot of great episodes. I was rather disappointed in the book's tone and criticisms throughout. Sometimes accurate, sometimes way off and a tad too harsh.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2008 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

The cue entitled "The Ambush" was used in that TZ ep with Albert Salmi as the bandit in the Old West about to be hung who is transported into the future. Great episode.

So strange - I enjoy this episode and yet the TZ book that comes with the "new" DVD set for season 1 trashes the episode.


That book trashes a lot of great episodes. I was rather disappointed in the book's tone and criticisms throughout. Sometimes accurate, sometimes way off and a tad too harsh.


I certainly agree. One of the best episodes of the early 1963 hour long half season was Richard Matheson's adaptation of his own story, MUTE. Brilliant in every aspect and yet he found fault with the character's motivations. I found the characters with the most kind motives quite sympathetic.

That teacher beotch is another animal.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2008 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

Does the Silva Collection have the Two unreleased Goldsmith scores from the Episodes:

NIGHTMARE AS A CHILD (nice lullaby theme, suspense writing and a cue right out of PLANET OF THE APES, seven years before APES)

and

THE FOUR OF US ARE DYING? (cool jazzy)

I remember those were very nice in the episodes.


Zoob

 
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