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 Posted:   Feb 21, 2008 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   soop   (Member)

New 2-disc set coming from Criterion in May:

http://criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=431

Special Features

* - SPECIAL EDITION DOUBLE-DISC SET FEATURES:
* - Restored digital transfer
* - Two audio commentaries: one featuring renowned directors Francis Ford Coppola and Martin Scorsese, and one with film and music historian Bruce Eder
* - New interviews with special-effects experts Ray Harryhausen, Dennis Muren, and Craig Barron about the technical achievements of The Thief of Bagdad
* - The Lion Has Wings (1940), Alexander Korda's propaganda film for the English war effort, during The Thief of Bagdad's production hiatus
* - Excerpts from codirector Michael Powell's audio dictations for his autobiography
* - Selections of music by composer Miklos Rózsa not used in the final film
* - Stills gallery featuring rare Dufaycolor images of the film's production
* - Theatrical trailer
* - PLUS: A booklet featuring new essays by film scholars Andrew Moor and Ian Christie


 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2008 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

A MUST BUY. A classic. Charming movie that looked brilliamt in old 3 strip Technicolor. That score is one of the best things Rozsa ever wrote for Korda.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2008 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

This is most welcome news. Finally a first class release and with unused Miklos Rozsa cues to boot!

THE THIEF OF BAGDAD is my favorite Rozsa score. Even as a little kid I appreciated something special about the music. Of course, I acknowledge the BEN-HUR is Rozsa's masterwork. But THE THIEF OF BAGDAD's absopultely wonderful Rozsa score occupies a special place in a special corner of my heart.

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   soop   (Member)

A very odd choice for cover art, though. Huh.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

A very odd choice for cover art, though. Huh.

One thing about the Criterion DVD's; their line consists of some really terrific cult films worthy of A plus attention and ammenities, but a lot of their covers leave something to be desired. I agree that that is an awful cover.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)



Drooooooooooooool

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

And just what the hell is that supposed to mean?

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Dadid L   (Member)

A very odd choice for cover art, though. Huh.

One thing about the Criterion DVD's; their line consists of some really terrific cult films worthy of A plus attention and ammenities, but a lot of their covers leave something to be desired. I agree that that is an awful cover.


????????????

In my opinion, Criterion have the best covers collection ever, very classy.

Pieces of "Art" versus simple poster reproduction.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

And just what the hell is that supposed to mean?

That I want it very much

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Definite must-have.

Most intrigued by new additional cues from Rozsa. Have heard rumors over the years that some of the tracks are available, like those of JUNGLE BOOK...

Speaking of JUNGLE BOOK, wish Criterion would do the same for that film, much misused on public domain releases.

As for the cover, it looks as if it was artwork commisioned for the DVD release. I usually prefer original poster art, but that's just my personal yen...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Criterion does indeed create a lot of its own cover art in-house - not all, but they do it quite a bit.

Wow, what a movie. I haven't seen it in years, but I remember watching it and having a delightful time with it. I do particularly remember being astounded at how well some of the effects held up after so many decades. I also seem to remember really loving the score at the time, though it's been so long I'm afraid I don't actually remember the score itself now, only (possibly) my reaction to it. I'd very much like to have this one. Perhaps I should rethink my current strategy of holding off further movie purchases until I can enjoy them on Blu-ray...

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   JackBlu78   (Member)

Sorry to say Criterion does some of the best if NOT the BEST dvd cover art for DVDs by any company. There really is no comparison. They are generally simple and they don't need to photoshop everyones faces as big as they can to sale the DVD. For expample see THE ICE STORM coming in March. This is one of the best covers ever.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

I love THE THIEF OF BAGDAD and will undoubtedly be buying this.

But, at the same time, I will be very wary.

While it promises to be better than the MGM Home Entertainment DVD release of a few years ago, Criterion, for all the hype, doesn't always turn out the best quality transfers despite their effort, primarily because they own next to none of the material they release---they simply license it from others. For that reason they are usually stuck with the printing elements they are given or can turn up, and never do true restorations of their own, from scratch. That kind of from-the-original-source restoration can cost upwards of several million dollars to do well and I suspect that Criterion is not all that well-funded. This transfer will probably be based on the rather poor restoration done by the BFI in the '80s(?) which had a number of issues. (We'll be able to see if this is a new "restoration" if they have "found" the missing footage in the main title and fixed that jarring negative splice.)

Nonetheless, it will be wonderful to have this film back in DVD circulation again.


Incidentally, Criterion needs to re-do its THIEF OF BAGDAD information page and line-up the production staff names with their job descriptions for the film. Is Miklos Rozsa REALLY the "Technicolor Color Director" on the film? smile




 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   JackBlu78   (Member)

According to Criterion the transfer has mainly been restored from a negative from the 1970's because it looked the best, better than the 1980's prints. Here is the blog link http://www.criterion.com/blog/index.html Just Scroll down to MAGIC CARPET RIDE.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I love THE THIEF OF BAGDAD and will undoubtedly be buying this.

But, at the same time, I will be very wary.

While it promises to be better than the MGM Home Entertainment DVD release of a few years ago, Criterion, for all the hype, doesn't always turn out the best quality transfers despite their effort, primarily because they own next to none of the material they release---they simply license it from others. For that reason they are usually stuck with the printing elements they are given or can turn up, and never do true restorations of their own, from scratch. That kind of from-the-original-source restoration can cost upwards of several million dollars to do well and I suspect that Criterion is not all that well-funded. This transfer will probably be based on the rather poor restoration done by the BFI in the '80s(?) which had a number of issues. (We'll be able to see if this is a new "restoration" if they have "found" the missing footage in the main title and fixed that jarring negative splice.)


As far as I can tell, their transfers have generally been the best done at the time they were done, but have frequently been superseded by later transfers by the rightsholders or other companies. I may be wrong, but I was under the impression they actually do a fair amount of restoration work on the films they present (or Janus Films does it, or they work in association with some other rightsholder to get it done).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

According to Criterion the transfer has mainly been restored from a negative from the 1970's because it looked the best, better than the 1980's prints. Here is the blog link http://www.criterion.com/blog/index.html Just Scroll down to MAGIC CARPET RIDE.

And scroll down a little further, to "Designing Berlin Alexanderplatz," for a look at how one of Criterion's recent cover designs came about.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I'd actually be happier with a restored released of the 1961 version. We already have this one, and the '61 version, though inferior, is still fairly breathtaking in its color, and more of a fond memory of my youth.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Thread Assasin   (Member)

I love this movie and missed out on the original DVD release. Very glad to see it will be available again, soon.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I wish the original directors were still alive and providing commentaries for this DVD! THAT would be fun! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2017 - 1:06 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

And I wish they'd given this one the Blu-ray treatment. The movie is available on Blu from another label, but of course I also want Criterion's extras.

The last few hundred titles Criterion has released have all come out on both Blu-ray and DVD, but tons of their others remain DVD-only, including this one, and this is a movie where the visuals really matter.

 
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