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 Posted:   Jan 12, 2008 - 10:50 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I watched this dvd this afternoon and had yet another grand time with THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES. I recall seeing it in LA sometime in 1976 and revisit this film every few years, it's still a solid, enjoyable Western. I think the two stongest aspects that continue to draw me back again and again are the positively DELIGHTFUL performance of Chief Dan George as the aged Cherokee Indian who, unfortunately continutally keeps getting snuck-up from behind by 'the white man'. (In spite of all the superb supporting performances that year, I'd have loved for him to have gotten a second Oscar nomination for this film.) And secondly, Jerry Fieldings rousing score, perhaps his last great score. Does anyone know if Fielding went to the Oscar's that year in case he'd have won, or did he sit it out elsewhere? I'd give almost anything for a copy of this score, but I've never seen it around anywhere. I've been told that BYU Film Music had a private pressing of it, still - I've never found one for sale. Would FSM be able to re-release this Oscar nominated score at any future time?

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

I watched this dvd this afternoon and had yet another grand time with THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES. I recall seeing it in LA sometime in 1976 and revisit this film every few years, it's still a solid, enjoyable Western. I think the two stongest aspects that continue to draw me back again and again are the positively DELIGHTFUL performance of Chief Dan George as the aged Cherokee Indian who, unfortunately continutally keeps getting snuck-up from behind by 'the white man'. (In spite of all the superb supporting performances that year, I'd have loved for him to have gotten a second Oscar nomination for this film.) And secondly, Jerry Fieldings rousing score, perhaps his last great score. Does anyone know if Fielding went to the Oscar's that year in case he'd have won, or did he sit it out elsewhere? I'd give almost anything for a copy of this score, but I've never seen it around anywhere. I've been told that BYU Film Music had a private pressing of it, still - I've never found one for sale. Would FSM be able to re-release this Oscar nominated score at any future time?


Yes, SAE used to sell the complete soundtrack under "The Jerry Fielding Collection" title.
It's Jerry Fielding second best score after "The Wild Bunch".
It's powerful, full of grandeur and also darkness...

http://soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=7796


 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I owned this LP for years and loved it, but I never sought out other scores by Fielding in my earlier years because a lot of what I heard by him was too jazzy for my liking. Fast forward to more recent times and a friend (Hi Roy!) passed me a copy of the FSM Getaway CD that he'd reviewed for MFTM, but didn't care to keep. I fell in love with it and started to catch up on other Jerry Fielding scores. He came at a good time for me too, because I was really starting to get fed up with the current scene, with most new scores boring me to tears. Another friend (Hi Damian!) gave me a copy of the expanded Josey Wales score, another poster here sold me a rare copy of the Alfredo Garcia/Gambler CD without me having to remortgage the house and I managed to track down many others by good luck and fortune.
I'm really loving hearing this guys music now that my musical taste has grown to accomodate his stunning style (check out my glowing review of his Supercops score on MFTM).
The Mechanic just arrived with a bunch of other stuff from SAE, so it's like he never went away (and they never really do, thanks to the music they leave behind).
I'll always love his dancing percussion and it all began, for me, with Outlaw Josey Wales.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

I owned this LP for years and loved it, but I never sought out other scores by Fielding in my earlier years because a lot of what I heard by him was too jazzy for my liking. Fast forward to more recent times and a friend (Hi Roy!) passed me a copy of the FSM Getaway CD that he'd reviewed for MFTM, but didn't care to keep. I fell in love with it and started to catch up on other Jerry Fielding scores. He came at a good time for me too, because I was really starting to get fed up with the current scene, with most new scores boring me to tears. Another friend (Hi Damian!) gave me a copy of the expanded Josey Wales score, another poster here sold me a rare copy of the Alfredo Garcia/Gambler CD without me having to remortgage the house and I managed to track down many others by good luck and fortune.
I'm really loving hearing this guys music now that my musical taste has grown to accomodate his stunning style (check out my glowing review of his Supercops score on MFTM).
The Mechanic just arrived with a bunch of other stuff from SAE, so it's like he never went away (and they never really do, thanks to the music they leave behind).
I'll always love his dancing percussion and it all began, for me, with Outlaw Josey Wales.



ZIGZAG/THE SUPER COPS review:
http://www.musicfromthemovies.com/review.asp?ID=6186

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I watched this dvd this afternoon and had yet another grand time with THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES. I recall seeing it in LA sometime in 1976 and revisit this film every few years, it's still a solid, enjoyable Western. I think the two stongest aspects that continue to draw me back again and again are the positively DELIGHTFUL performance of Chief Dan George as the aged Cherokee Indian who, unfortunately continutally keeps getting snuck-up from behind by 'the white man'. (In spite of all the superb supporting performances that year, I'd have loved for him to have gotten a second Oscar nomination for this film.) And secondly, Jerry Fieldings rousing score, perhaps his last great score. Does anyone know if Fielding went to the Oscar's that year in case he'd have won, or did he sit it out elsewhere? I'd give almost anything for a copy of this score, but I've never seen it around anywhere. I've been told that BYU Film Music had a private pressing of it, still - I've never found one for sale. Would FSM be able to re-release this Oscar nominated score at any future time?


Yes, SAE used to sell the complete soundtrack under "The Jerry Fielding Collection" title.
It's Jerry Fielding second best score after "The Wild Bunch".
It's powerful, full of grandeur and also darkness...

http://soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=7796





Dutch, you have such a way with words. Indeed, a great Fielding score. I have this SAE version. It's a real shame it's not more readily available.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

On that particular Oscar night, Fielding was up against Jerry Goldsmith's Omen, Herrmann's Taxi Driver and Obsession, and a Lalo Schifrin (sorry Lalo, can't remember the movie frown). That's what I call a once-in-a-lifetime Oscar night!

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

One for the road...

THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES trailer:
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/36888/The-Outlaw-Josey-Wales/trailers

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

On that particular Oscar night, Fielding was up against Jerry Goldsmith's Omen, Herrmann's Taxi Driver and Obsession, and a Lalo Schifrin (sorry Lalo, can't remember the movie frown). That's what I call a once-in-a-lifetime Oscar night!


Lalo was up for VOYAGE OF THE DAMNED.

That very night:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uMsXdPx6xxw

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

I'm hoping we will see a complete, ultimate version of this fine score from FSM at some point.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2008 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I'm hoping we will see a complete, ultimate version of this fine score from FSM at some point.

YES.

YES again. This is too good a score from a fine movie of it's era to be so limitedly available.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2009 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

Seems way over due for the FSM treatment, given the Fielding releases we've gotten in the past year.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2009 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

There's no such thing as "too jazzy."

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2009 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I'd be happy just to have the LP version out on CD (but happier to have it complete).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2009 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

On that particular Oscar night, Fielding was up against Jerry Goldsmith's Omen, Herrmann's Taxi Driver and Obsession, and a Lalo Schifrin (sorry Lalo, can't remember the movie frown). That's what I call a once-in-a-lifetime Oscar night!


Lalo was up for VOYAGE OF THE DAMNED.

That very night:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uMsXdPx6xxw



Hey Zooba thanks for the youtube link. When I watched it I tried to recognize the people sitting immediately next to and around Jerry Goldsmith as his name was announced and he rose from his seat. I only recognized Paul Willaims, but I would have guessed the composers were sitting all around each other (Bernard Hermann being the exception.) After so many years of nominations, to actually hear the words "...and the winner is...Jerry Goldsmith", what a joy to hear. Wow, that logo for the 49th Academy Awards at the begining of the clip - when I saw it it just looked 'so 70's' to me, the color and design just said it all.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2009 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)


Hey Zooba thanks for the youtube link. When I watched it I tried to recognize the people sitting immediately next to and around Jerry Goldsmith as his name was announced and he rose from his seat. I only recognized Paul Willaims, but I would have guessed the composers were sitting all around each other (Bernard Hermann being the exception.) After so many years of nominations, to actually hear the words "...and the winner is...Jerry Goldsmith", what a joy to hear. Wow, that logo for the 49th Academy Awards at the begining of the clip - when I saw it it just looked 'so 70's' to me, the color and design just said it all.


Looks like Jerry wore his hair pretty "big" in those days - another victim of the decade style forgot! I dare say that if you saw Goldsmith's casual wear closet at the time, you'd faint. wink

And Herrmann WAS sitting there... Banquo's ghost style, yelling at Goldsmith "Yah just another Hollywood whore!". Unfortunately, American NTSC cameras in the 70s couldn't pick up spectral images of kvetching film composers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2009 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

I'd be happy just to have the LP version out on CD (but happier to have it complete).

You really need it complete, or you wouldn't have the first appearance of the bounty hunter track. One of the greatest suspense cues of all time, and unique to Fielding -- I'm fairly confident in saying no one else has ever used that particular musical technique.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2009 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

I first saw Josey Wales as part of a double feature at a drive in along with The Shootist. At the time both films were pretty much viewed as the end of an era. Two major westerns with a major star in each. Critics pretty much wrote of the genre after that. John Wayne died. Josey Wales maybe my favorite Eastwood western. The cast is top notch.(The same is true in The Shootist btw) Great music in both.

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2009 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

Some may consider it heresy, but I've always considered "The Outlaw Josey Wales" my favorite Clint Eastwood film over "Unforgiven". No question that "Unforgiven" is brilliant and both films are in my personal list of top 10 Westerns, but "Josey Wales" is just so enjoyable...a perfect Western. And the score! Just marvelous...Fielding's best after "The Wild Bunch". Love that thunderous opening percussion!

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2009 - 11:50 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Some may consider it heresy, but I've always considered "The Outlaw Josey Wales" my favorite Clint Eastwood film over "Unforgiven". No question that "Unforgiven" is brilliant and both films are in my personal list of top 10 Westerns, but "Josey Wales" is just so enjoyable...a perfect Western. And the score! Just marvelous...Fielding's best after "The Wild Bunch". Love that thunderous opening percussion!

Well, I cannot argue with your preference of one over the other, and certainly the Fielding score is superior. It's a case of Eastwood finding personal, life affirming redemption in WALES and simply getting sucked back into the darkness in UNFORGIVEN. I love 'em both.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2009 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   musicwizard   (Member)

Well Clint Eastwood certainly inspired Jerry Fielding. Although they only did four pictures together (The Enforer, Josey Wales, The Gauntlet and Escape from Alcatraz) they are all highlights in Fielding's career.
I always wondered what would have happened if Fielindg hadn't passed away so soon. Maybe he would finaly have won an oscar for Unforgiven.
Tightrope, City Heat, Pale Rider, Heartbreak Ridge, The Rookie, all projects that would have certainly continued the Fielding / Eastwood relationship. I mean you can truly hear Fielding's voice in Lennie Niehaus' music. Probably the sound Eastwood wanted for this films. Hell he even might have scored Firefox!
But I don't think he would have been eager to adapt any of Eastwood's music in his scores so I guess at some point (like with Peckinpah) they would just split up.

 
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