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 Posted:   Sep 29, 2007 - 11:54 PM   
 By:   dman   (Member)

I know there's a bootleg floating around somewhere (god knows where) -- but how about a normal release?

Is there any chance of this getting released in the near future? I'd really like to hear it, and well, the rest is self-explanatory.

Thanks for any incoming news...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2007 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   danaspal   (Member)

I have been waiting for Varese to release a double bill of Phenomenon and Whispers in the Dark for years. I know they had at one time assigned a product number to the latter. Phenomenon contains some absolutely sublime heartbreaking passages and is easily one of TN's greatest scores. The sound quality on the boot BTW is awful. Here's hopin'!

 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2007 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   dman   (Member)

That's incredibly disappointing that it hasn't been released yet, but thanks for the Varese possibility heads up.

I relaly do wish they'd release two of them as a Club score. I'm a Newman completist so it pains me not having one of his best scores. frown

The boot won't be worth searching for if it has bad sound quality. Oh well. Thanks again.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2007 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I don't think this "double bill" is going to happen. I think it's just wishful thinking at this point so don't get too excited.

James

 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2007 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

That's incredibly disappointing that it hasn't been released yet, but thanks for the Varese possibility heads up.

I relaly do wish they'd release two of them as a Club score. I'm a Newman completist so it pains me not having one of his best scores. frown

The boot won't be worth searching for if it has bad sound quality. Oh well. Thanks again.


So you're a Newman completist? I love his stuff from the 80s, do you have all that?

Gung Ho/The Man With One Red Shoe (boot, missing several Res Shoe themes, like the Airport Scene and the End Credits)
Amazing Stories (the Santa 85 episode)
Jumpin Jack Flash (2 score tracks)
Light Of Day (1 score track)
The Lost Boys (1 score track)
Less Than Zero (boot)
The Great Outdoors (1 score track)
Cookie (1 score track)
Desperately Seeking Susan

How is the Great Outdoors track?

Do you have anything else by him form the 80s?

 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2007 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Personally, I'd love to see a "Newman" twofer....Thomas' score to "Phenomenon" and Randy's score to "Michael".

Two Newmans...two Travolta films...two terrific scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2007 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   danaspal   (Member)

dman, e-mail me - jazmast@ureach.com

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2007 - 12:05 AM   
 By:   dman   (Member)

Danaspal, I'm e-mailing you right after this message. smile

So you're a Newman completist? I love his stuff from the 80s, do you have all that?

Gung Ho/The Man With One Red Shoe (boot, missing several Res Shoe themes, like the Airport Scene and the End Credits)
Amazing Stories (the Santa 85 episode)
Jumpin Jack Flash (2 score tracks)
Light Of Day (1 score track)
The Lost Boys (1 score track)
Less Than Zero (boot)
The Great Outdoors (1 score track)
Cookie (1 score track)
Desperately Seeking Susan

How is the Great Outdoors track?

Do you have anything else by him form the 80s?


I try to be a completist but it's very hard. I'm still working on it. Made my way through all his released 90s and 00s stuff, but I still have the 80s to go through. Desperatley Seeking Susan, Roxy Carmichael, and Santa 85 are on my to buy list and I'll be getting them any time now. I had the Lost Boys and Less than Zero sent to me by a friend.

But that's about it from the 80s. I'm working on it though, I'm a relatively new film score person so I'm just going one step at a time.

But let me ask you, have you listened to any of those you listed? If so, what do you think?
Granted, I'm sure you like them since you said so in the post, but just more clarification would be nice. big grin


-- Randy's score to Michael would be very nice. Another good score, certainly.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2007 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Is there a boot for The Lost Boys or do you mean the single score track "To The Shock Of Miss Louise"? A strange track by the way.

My opinions:

Gung Ho is not a very good score, but I love The Man With One Red Shoe. This boot is a must have for the Red Shoe Opening Credits alone.
I havenĀ“t heard Santa 85 and The Great Outdoors.
The 2 score tracks Love Music and Breaking The Code from Jumpin Jack Flash are really nice, Elegy from Light Of Day is very beautiful, the score track Slammer from Cookie is really cool, but very short. D S Susan is very good. The Less Than Zero boot is good too.

But as I said, Light Of Day, The Great Outdoors and Cookie original soundtracks all feature one score track only, Jumpin Jack Flash two.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2007 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   dman   (Member)

There's a boot for The Lost Boys with many tracks.

The Man with One Red Shoe sounds like a fun score. I just wish a lot of his older scores would get full releases (not boots) as opposed to 1-track scores. :/

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   tranzishun   (Member)

Any plans for this?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2013 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   MattyT   (Member)

Has there been any indication from Intrada or any of the other labels about releasing this score? It's one of my favorite Newman scores and I hate the fact that there was only one track on the soundtrack and the "promo" has horrible sound quality. I figured with Intrada's Disney relationship that this one would be a no-brainer...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2014 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   AJ   (Member)

To revive this thread, I am a bit surprised that "Phenomenon" is still unreleased at this point. So many lesser, more obscure scores -- and "Phenomenon" is neither -- have finally gotten limited edition releases over the past several years. Even the Blu-ray release of the film a year or two ago did not engender a score release. I suppose you can chalk it up to the brevity of the score at under 30 minutes. And among the limited edition crowd, Thomas Newman just does not get the fanboys up into a buying frenzy the way that Jerry Goldsmith does.

My reason for reviving this thread is that I was working with the audio from the "Phenomenon" score earlier today. Right about 16 years ago, I came into possession of the "Phenomenon" Academy promo cassette. Why, in the year 1997, Thomas Newman's representation decided that issuing a promo on cassette was the right move is still a mystery to me. Regardless, I had a copy of the promo cassette and determined to bring it into the digital realm with a transfer to CD-R.

This was in 1998, and I did not have access to sophisticated digital audio editing tools. But I used the best cassette deck that I had into a PC with a decent sound card and CD-R drive for just a straight transfer. The promo cassette had reportedly been recorded without any Dolby noise reduction, and various listening tests seemed to confirm that. The best tonal balance was achieved with a flat playback. So, this truly was just a straight transfer -- without even the tracks on the cassette being separated on the CD-R.

Flash forward to today. Times and technology have changed dramatically, and it occurred to me that I seriously ought to check the data integrity on that 16 year old CD-R and back up its contents. Fortunately, surprisingly, the CD-R ripped securely. Then, I dumped the ripped file into Audacity. Maybe it was earlier serendipity, but I did a fine job in the cassette to CD-R transfer so many years ago. The recorded levels were just about spot on -- no clipping whatsoever with peaks topping out around -2 dBFS. I made a minor tweak to the levels in one of the channels, split the file into the appropriate tracks, and exported the project.

I have never heard the various "bootleg" versions of the promo cassette, so I cannot speak to their quality. However, I certainly would not call the sound quality of my personal transfer "horrible." Due to the promo's inferior cassette source, the audio has some tape hiss, a bit of wow and flutter, but I am actually surprised at how good the transfer sounds -- without unduly focusing on the source limitations. I played the ripped and slightly tweaked FLAC files on my high end rig tonight, and the results were quite satisfying.

Well, that is my relevant story. If nothing else, I have my "Phenomenon," while I still hope that it gets a commercial release in the near future.

AJ

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I suppose you can chalk it up to the brevity of the score at under 30 minutes.

The promo tape was not the complete score. The full score runs about 45 minutes, not including alternates.

It's one of Newman's loveliest scores. This would make a great pairing with another John-Travolta-is-magic film scored by a Newman, Randy Newman's never-released "Michael." But they're different studios, so it won't happen. I'd buy either in a heartbeat, though.

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   MattyT   (Member)

I've been waiting for a score release of this for a long time. I hope that it is on Intrada's radar. Even if it clocks in at only 30-40 minutes, it's an instant buy for me. One of Newman's best dramatic scores in my opinion.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

I suppose you can chalk it up to the brevity of the score at under 30 minutes.

The promo tape was not the complete score. The full score runs about 45 minutes, not including alternates.

It's one of Newman's loveliest scores. This would make a great pairing with another John-Travolta-is-magic film scored by a Newman, Randy Newman's never-released "Michael." But they're different studios, so it won't happen. I'd buy either in a heartbeat, though.


I always put these two scores together for some reason and would also buy both or either in an instant, quite lovely. Michael has some great moments and the opening Heaven Is My Home is a fun Newman (R) song.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   ponytear   (Member)

Right about 16 years ago, I came into possession of the "Phenomenon" Academy promo cassette.

I come late in the discussion but I hope you can answer my question: could you provide me with the tracklist of that cassette? Until now, I had no idea this promo was a cassette. I am also very interested in scans/pictures of that cassette.
I am aware of the (bad quality) 14-track bootleg often referred to as "promo" and which is 25 minutes long. I assume it is sourced from the cassette but I would like to be certain.

Last year, I made my own rip of the complete score from the Blu-ray. It is about 36 minutes long.

But recently, I found another source also referred to as "promo", but which has 22 tracks and is about 30 minutes long and has excellent audio quality. Some tracks have no titles. The person I got it from was unable to provide me with any information regarding its source. Would someone know something about it?

Thanks a lot for any information!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2016 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   MattyT   (Member)

I'm still waiting for Intrada to release this Newman gem. It's Thomas Newman at his best IMHO and even though the score is short, it really deserves a release.

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2018 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Since LLL is going to release The Man With One Red Shoe, what are the chances that we'll get to hear a release of Phenomenon?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2018 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Unbelievable that this amazing score has yet to see the light of day.

 
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