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 Posted:   Dec 29, 2007 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)


Well, let's face it. Barry is not as good-selling as Goldsmith is.

Alex


Are you sure?

In all the years I've been in film music, CD sales have generally reported Goldsmith, Williams and Barry being on a par with each other in terms of being top of soundtrack album sales inside the film music circle. Which is small. We now know it's tough to sell more than 3,000 copies of most titles inside the circle. That's how small it is.

What's happened in these latter years is that interest in Barry has dropped off and interest in Goldsmith has increased inside the circle. Which is small. However, outside the circle (which is huge), Barry and Williams generally sold much better than Goldsmith.

Now, a release like Mary Queen Of Scots, which would clearly be marketted as an "inside the circle" product, would probably sell much slower than Alien, which is an undeniable classic for which much propulsion has built up over the years.

However, remember that Raise The Titanic (which was marketted outide this small circle) sold over 13,000 copies. Not bad for a film that was bad, a flop and years out of the news. Midnight Cowboy, Somwehere In Time, Out Of Africa and Dances With Wolves have been massive sellers over the years and none of these albums have been deleted simply because they keep on selling. Think about it: Somewhere In Time has sold well enough every year that is has remained in print continuously since 1980. That's 27 years.

I'm not taking anything away from Goldsmith here, whom I think is undeniably a faster and bigger seller inside the circle. But when you take the music market in its broader context, I actually think you're mistaken to believe Goldsmith sells better than Barry in general.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2007 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

That's a good point. I suppose I mean "inside the circle" sales are better on Goldsmith than Barry releases (depending on the score, of course). And at least as far as the FSM and Intrada "communities" go, I've seen more interest in Goldsmith releases.
"Outside the circle" I would definitely put Barry on a higher level than Goldsmith as far as popularity goes.
Yet, look at the Robin & Marian re-recording. It sold fairly well for "inside the circle" standards, yet in a general basis, it was not a good seller.
Feel free to correct me on any of these numbers, but I think it's all relative. Sales depend on various factors:

- Popularity of the film
- Popularity of the score
- Popularity of the composer

Raise The Titanic, even though it sank at the box-office (and being a very bad film), had a following. And Monte Walsh, probably a better score (and a much better film) in many respects, took almost 9 years to sell out at 3000 copies. That's 10000 copies less than Raise The Titanic. My point? The popularity of the film and score proved to be the main factor for sales.
Things like Boom, Follow Me, Day Of The Locust - despite being excellent and must-have Barry scores, would not do very well "outside the circle", because hardly anyone have heard of the films. And "inside the circle", I think they would do just fine, but not as good as a Goldsmith release would.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

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 Posted:   Apr 3, 2015 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Spiderbite   (Member)

Another vote to release this score on CD!

The one that was released a few years ago costs way too much on the secondary market.

 
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