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 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   samanthasmom   (Member)

I have been here for over 40 years in America, The Death of John and Bobby Kennedy, and Martin Luther King, the Riots in LA, and so on. BUT I could never would think that not one, not two, but three Airline Jets would hit their target.

I thought I was seeing Irwin Allens' The Towering Inferno, with ID4 mixed in!!! It was so unreal. How could this happen to America?

The Day the Earth Stood Still is in place today, September 11, 2001.

I saw men and women jumping from the 90th floor of the World Trade Buildings, to their deaths. I saw buildings collapse. I saw chaos and panic.

We got caught with our britches down!!! BUT whomever cause this mass destruction and death will die. It is time for America to how forceful our reply should be.

Not with conventional weapons!! Yes, It is time for The United States to take out whoever did this fuck'd up act to die!!!

I really believe this will happen. It is what Israel should of done way back when in the Gulf War!! It is what we should do know!!

If it takes blowing the fuck out of several countries, so be it. A EYE FOR A EYE!!!

This is reality!! We cannot pussyfoot on this subject!! Mass loss of live for Mass loss of live!
Many Americans lost their lives today. It is time to strike back with GREAT FORCE!

It is Time for AMERICA TO STRIKE BACK!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Deadtony   (Member)

I understand your feelings but I must say they are a bit ignorent. Not mass life for Mass life we would sink to there level.I hope we shall only do what is neccesary.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Spacehunter   (Member)

quote:
Originally posted by samanthasmom:
I saw men and women jumping from the 90th floor of the World Trade Buildings, to their deaths.

They showed that? I heard about it but never saw it (I don't think I'd want to anyway). I guess I didn't see it because I was watching the more restrained Fox News Channel.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Deadtony   (Member)

They showed it. And I am not ashmed to admitt I nearly cried it was awful. Oh god it was awful. I can't type it into words.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

quote:
Originally posted by samanthasmom:
Mass loss of live for Mass loss of live!

Pathetic. Ever wondered how terrorism starts?

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I have learned more details of what my cousin went through this morning and the fact that he is alive is nothing short of miraculous. His office was on the 82nd floor of the North Tower, literally just several floors below where the first plane struck. It was a miracle enough that he was not killed in the explosion but he was trapped briefly and we were convinced he was dead. Then we discovered that he was able to get out by the stairs and made it out of the North Tower (which was second to collapse) only minutes before it fell. Most of his business colleagues and friends are likely dead.

I still find myself thinking tomorrow I will wake up and find out this never happened.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   Spacehunter   (Member)

I know what you mean. It seems so unreal. I (somehow) forget about while on the computer, then return to the living room downstairs and see the footage on TV and say to myself, "God, it really happened."

I'm glad to hear your cousin made it. Even more miraculous was that people from the 92nd(!!) floor were able to get out. That's amazing.

I also saw (incase any of you didn't) that FRASIER/CHEERS executive producer David Angell and his wife were on board one of the places used to hit the World Trade Centers. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/frown.gif">

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   samanthasmom   (Member)

BUT I really believe that, America will strike with great force, and it will not be conventional bombs! Thousand and thousands of lives were fucking destroyed by whomever.

America will find this scum, and destroy this scum and if your country is hiding this scum, you will die too!!!

That is the way it should be. This is not someone coming to the United States and slapping you in the face. NO!! This someone coming to our United States and fucking us!

We will not pussyfoot this situation. I want the United States to stand together and drop those non-conventional bombs on every fucking country out there that hides scums of the earth! Make these shitasses pay!

They came to a peaceful country and destroyed: OUR WAY OF LIFE!!! Our United States will not be the same. It is for-real when you see humans jumping off a 110 storie building!

They came to the United States and hit us hard, BUT we can hit harder and faster and completely destroy their lives for hiding scum!!! That is the way it should and will be!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Stephen Lister   (Member)

Oh good. Respond to madness with even worse madness. That's really intelligent.

I know a lot of this stuff is an expression of profound anger, but please, for goodness sakes, get a hold of yourself, and remember what Gandhi said: "An eye for an eye just makes the world blind."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   Spacehunter   (Member)

Responding with force is the only way to handle these heartless bastards. Deal with those reponsible fiercely (and on live television if possible), and you'll be sending a message to other would-be terrorists that things like this are not tolerated and will be dealt with in such ways. Otherwise, it'll be open season on the U.S. if everyone just sits around trying to talk their way through things and acting nice.

[This message has been edited by Spacehunter (edited 11 September 2001).]

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Stephen Lister   (Member)

By all means hunt down those responsible. But samanthasmom (and others elsewhere) seems to be advocating a mass bombing campaign with "non-conventional weapons" (i.e. nukes) ... and that strikes me as a somewhat unreasonable response to this atrocity.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Christian Reiffenrath   (Member)

if some of the members of this board had something to say in the us there would be ww3 right away.

This was done by members of the human race which believes itself to be the crown of the evolution / creation. IT IS NOT !

In fact the human race was the biggest mistake that could happen to this planet...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2001 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.".......(supposedly Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto after the Pearl Harbor attack)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

quote:
Originally posted by samanthasmom:
America will find this scum, and destroy this scum and if your country is hiding this scum, you will die too!!!

Very nice. I seriously doubt that Austria is hiding anyone of those responsible. But if somebody here in Austria happens to be connected with it, why should I die?? What if one of the people involved was a US citizen (very likely, since this must have been massively organized, and MANY people must have been involved)? Will the US wipe out itself?

quote:
That is the way it should be. This is not someone coming to the United States and slapping you in the face. NO!! This someone coming to our United States and fucking us!

Of course, it's not about the people. Who cares how many have died? It was the United States, for christ's sake! Better to have tens of thousands of people die in another country. Nobody fucks with the United States.

I don't care at all to which country this has happened (aside from that the fact that this has happened to the US shows how frighteningly strong terrorism is). If it had happened to Austria, I wouldn't feel any better or worse. People died.

Those who did this are complete assholes. They killed thousands of people. I hate them for it. What samanthasmom wants to do is to kill tens of thousands of people because some of them have killed thousands of US citizens. That's worse - it's how wars get started.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Pete M   (Member)

Just to agree 100% with everything Marian said. That goes for me too.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

I don't advocate nor oppose anything mentioned here, but, Marian, what do you think should be done?

DH

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   Philipp   (Member)

If I may be allowed to, I would like to say that this is not just a sad day for America, but for the whole civilized and freedom loving people, which I hope from the deepest places in my heart, outnumber the others.

Philipp

" No matter how dark the day, no matter how terrible the time, there was still this light we call humanity."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I don't know if anyone will see this, but I found out about this horror while on my way to the beach for a much anticipated vacation.
When I got to the motel and went into the lobby to check in, I sat down for a few minutes and watched, on the lobby TV, the coverage on the news. Within a minute I had to get up and go back out to my car where I just started sobbing. Later, I realised that my brother's office was very close to the Pentagon. I frantically called him and he was alright, but he saw the fireball from his window.
All day, I've been seeing flags lowered to half-staff, and everytime, I start crying.
I've wanted friends to talk to about what has happened, but I'm far away from home, and I guess this was the only way to get in touch with my friends, and y'all are my friends.
I am determined to have a good time on my vacation, because if I let this ruin my vacation, then these bastards truly have succeeded in devastating everyone's lives in America.
Y'all take care.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I also want to say that I respect everyone's opinion here concerning what has happened but I do agree with Samantha; We have to use "Unconventional weapons. There are children in these countries, children that will grow up to be terrorist as well. I hope I haven't made any enemies with my feelings.
Actually, I have talked to quite a few people while here at the beach and everyone of them agrees with this. That doesn't neccessarily make us right, though. But we have been too soft on terrorists and they know it. It is time to strike back.
Our country has been changed FOREVER.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2001 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   jeffy   (Member)

Thanks for the affirming message, Jim.

As a journalist, it has been weird watching the news unfold. The only time I cried was when the second tower fell. At that moment, I could picture in my head whoever led the attack jumping up and down in joy. The pictures from the Middle East later confirmed my fears.

A lot of my friends don't really want to talk. They think people have been talking too much. They think it's time to be silent. Now that the smoke has cleared, it's time to mourn, time to heal, time to LIVE. We need to take care of this country before we can think of any kind of retaliation. And we need to show them that this country (and the countries who mourn our losses with us) will survive.

 
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