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 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

The Making of is on a 2 LP set. Look for it. Unfortunately it's loaded down with dialogue.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Did Bernstein provide the Shearing-esque score for "Kaleidoscope Jazz Chair," or is that library music?

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

The Making of is on a 2 LP set. Look for it. Unfortunately it's loaded down with dialogue.

And there is not a note of Bernstein's score on it!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 7:25 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Re: Oakland. Gail Kubik was the composer of GERALD McBOING-BOING. I believe Raksin's contribution to the occasion was Thurber's THE UNICORN IN THE GARDEN.

Eric, was that World's Fair opus a muli-screen epic I've read about? I understand the music was outstanding Americana.

I think it behooves all of us to gang up on Eames Dimetrios (SP?), grandson and keeper of the family flame, and plead with him to release more volumes of Bernstein/Eames scores. They were an important part of Bernstein's compositional contribution to 20th Century American culture, and ditto the films themselves in terms of Charles and Ray's significance.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

Re: Oakland. Gail Kubik was the composer of GERALD McBOING-BOING. I believe Raksin's contribution to the occasion was Thurber's THE UNICORN IN THE GARDEN.

Eric, was that World's Fair opus a muli-screen epic I've read about? I understand the music was outstanding Americana.

I think it behooves all of us to gang up on Eames Dimetrios (SP?), grandson and keeper of the family flame, and plead with him to release more volumes of Bernstein/Eames scores. They were an important part of Bernstein's compositional contribution to 20th Century American culture, and ditto the films themselves in terms of Charles and Ray's significance.


Pardon the slip. It was 34 years ago I attended this concert. Raksin conducted both The Unicorn in the Garden and Giddyap. Gerald McBoing-Boing was done but conducted by Fred Steiner. Freddy also conducted Energetically Yours from The Ronald Searle Suite and Merry Go Round in the Jungle, Bernstein did Toy Trains. Lyn Murray was to conduct but never showed up for the big weekend.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

The Making of is on a 2 LP set. Look for it. Unfortunately it's loaded down with dialogue.

And there is not a note of Bernstein's score on it!


My 2 LP set has the score as it is direct from the TV soundtrack. None of it is stand alone. Do you know any other way to obtain or listen to this score? If so I would be on the glad to purchase list.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Eric, was that World's Fair opus a muli-screen epic I've read about? I understand the music was outstanding Americana.

Yes it was. Here's a look at how it was inside the theater. I have a copy transferred from a 16mm print which of course barely hints at what the original multi-screen experience was like.



The best World's Fair site on the net (which I've contributed to), has a great profile of the film.

http://www.nywf64.com/ibm04.shtml

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Did Bernstein provide the Shearing-esque score for "Kaleidoscope Jazz Chair," or is that library music?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2010 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Did Bernstein provide the Shearing-esque score for "Kaleidoscope Jazz Chair," or is that library music?


Elmer did not do "Kaleidoscope Jazz Chair", no.


- JMM.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2010 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

The Making of is on a 2 LP set. Look for it. Unfortunately it's loaded down with dialogue.

And there is not a note of Bernstein's score on it!


My 2 LP set has the score as it is direct from the TV soundtrack. None of it is stand alone. Do you know any other way to obtain or listen to this score? If so I would be on the glad to purchase list.




mrscott, Dana is correct. The 2-LP set of THE MAKING OF THE PRESIDENT 1960 on United Artists Records contains music by Ken Lauber, who was employed by United Artists Records at the time. There's no Bernstein music on that album. If you can find the film on DVD or VHS, you'll note that Elmer's score is something else again (and he was awarded an Emmy for it).

I can only surmise that there must have been some contractual reason for his music not to be heard on those discs...

- James.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2010 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

The Making of is on a 2 LP set. Look for it. Unfortunately it's loaded down with dialogue.

And there is not a note of Bernstein's score on it!


My 2 LP set has the score as it is direct from the TV soundtrack. None of it is stand alone. Do you know any other way to obtain or listen to this score? If so I would be on the glad to purchase list.




mrscott, Dana is correct. The 2-LP set of THE MAKING OF THE PRESIDENT 1960 on United Artists Records contains music by Ken Lauber, who was employed by United Artists Records at the time. There's no Bernstein music on that album. If you can find the film on DVD or VHS, you'll note that Elmer's score is something else again (and he was awarded an Emmy for it).

I can only surmise that there must have been some contractual reason for his music not to be heard on those discs...

- James.


I'll dig up the LP's. To be continued

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2010 - 8:26 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

While unable to listen to the LP's until I hook up an LP player I have the albums in my hands. Kenneth Lauber and Win Sharples, Jr. are credited with being music coordinators. The two LP's and the fold out jacket contain no other music credits.

IMDB pro mistakenly lists Elmer as a Cinematographer on its main page but on the crew page correctly lists EB as the composer and Jack K. Tillar as music editor. I believe that Ken Lauber is correctly listed as music coordinator for UA records but is not a composer. EB's music must be what is on the original soundtrack. Again, I will know as soon as I can hook up an LP player. I can't figure why they would go to all the work to remove EB's original score and substitute other work on the LP which purports to be the Original TV soundtrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2010 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

While unable to listen to the LP's until I hook up an LP player I have the albums in my hands. Kenneth Lauber and Win Sharples, Jr. are credited with being music coordinators. The two LP's and the fold out jacket contain no other music credits.

IMDB pro mistakenly lists Elmer as a Cinematographer on its main page but on the crew page correctly lists EB as the composer and Jack K. Tillar as music editor. I believe that Ken Lauber is correctly listed as music coordinator for UA records but is not a composer. EB's music must be what is on the original soundtrack. Again, I will know as soon as I can hook up an LP player. I can't figure why they would go to all the work to remove EB's original score and substitute other work on the LP which purports to be the Original TV soundtrack.


Further info on Kenneth Lauber indicates he was a TV and movie composer from 1966 to 1998. This activity period would have come quite a while after TMOTP1960 aired. Here is a link to his web site. http://www.kenlauber.net/. There is no compositional credit for any original work on the TV show or album release for TMOTP1960.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2010 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

While unable to listen to the LP's until I hook up an LP player I have the albums in my hands. Kenneth Lauber and Win Sharples, Jr. are credited with being music coordinators. The two LP's and the fold out jacket contain no other music credits.

IMDB pro mistakenly lists Elmer as a Cinematographer on its main page but on the crew page correctly lists EB as the composer and Jack K. Tillar as music editor. I believe that Ken Lauber is correctly listed as music coordinator for UA records but is not a composer. EB's music must be what is on the original soundtrack. Again, I will know as soon as I can hook up an LP player. I can't figure why they would go to all the work to remove EB's original score and substitute other work on the LP which purports to be the Original TV soundtrack.


Further info on Kenneth Lauber indicates he was a TV and movie composer from 1966 to 1998. This activity period would have come quite a while after TMOTP1960 aired. Here is a link to his web site. http://www.kenlauber.net/. There is no compositional credit for any original work on the TV show or album release for TMOTP1960.


I emailed the question to Mr. Lauber as to his actual contribution to the LP.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2010 - 2:55 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Good for you. I did the same thing a few years ago, and got a very nice reply.

You might also consider going on Youtube, where some kind soul has contributed the documentary film, The Making of the President 1960. Your ears will hear that the music is Elmer Bernstein's and is entirely different from what is on that 2-LP set.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2016 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Has anybody here seen the Eames "Polavision" films and can identify which vignette each piece from Bernstein's "Six Pieces for the Polavision Movie Camera" accompanied? Thanks to anybody in advance who might be able to help, I'm very curious.

 
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