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Sep 27, 2006 - 6:33 PM
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pacey1899
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I know this might have been talked about before but I am wondering if anyone has ever tried to compose music. At first, I personally thought that I never had it in me to compose anything but then I came up with something, an Olympic theme very much in the vein of Williams. I tried one other time to compose something but it just didn't come to me. A few notes came up but I didn't quite get it nailed down. The theme I composed grew from an idea I had for a dramatic television anthology series about the Olympics. I dabbled in screenwriting for a while and got frustrated after losing a contest and after a long break, I decided to look into writing again, but this time for television instead of the movies. Then, after talking to a composer friend of mine who posts here, I got the idea for the main theme. I think I got the inspiration for both ideas, the series and the music, from listening to my "Amazing Stories" soundtracks. If anyone wants to listen to what I came up with, please email me at acey1800@aol.com">pacey1800@aol.com.
I will say that the versions that are in existence of the themes I came up with are very crude, MIDI piano versions, and I tried my best to play them, with my limited piano skills. I want to learn how to play keyboard and learn music theory, and I am going to do that when I take some college courses starting next month. I am just curious though if anyone has ever tried to compose music, or if anyone here is a composer.
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I took some composition classes in college and it is an extraordinarily difficult discipline. I think music composition may be the hardest of all of the arts because it takes a kind of ruthless, mathematical logic to come up with something that is ultimately "artistic" and emotional. It requires thinking on many axes at once -- in terms of sound, and in terms of time. Then there is an enormous amount that must be learned about orchestration, performance, harmony, etc. I think what many beginning composers overlook is how important the sense of time is compared to sound -- it is easy to think about the kinds of noise you want to make, but how you structure them not just rhythmically, but in terms of how you want them to unfold through time and space. It's like drawing a moving painting -- animation perhaps -- but completely abstract, not like drawing pictures of a bunny hop across a screen because this bunny doesn't look like anything you can see. Then on top of it all, you have to learn the notation which is like learning how to write in Arabic. AND THEN on top of it all, this is just to learn how to do it technically, not how to do anything original or creative. Anyway, I learned that it would be a lifelong endeavor for me just to become mediocre, and I did not pursue it, but it was a fascinating and humbling experience.
Lukas
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I took some composition classes in college and it is an extraordinarily difficult discipline. I think music composition may be the hardest of all of the arts because it takes a kind of ruthless, mathematical logic to come up with something that is ultimately "artistic" and emotional. It requires thinking on many axes at once -- in terms of sound, and in terms of time. Then there is an enormous amount that must be learned about orchestration, performance, harmony, etc. I think what many beginning composers overlook is how important the sense of time is compared to sound -- it is easy to think about the kinds of noise you want to make, but how you structure them not just rhythmically, but in terms of how you want them to unfold through time and space. It's like drawing a moving painting -- animation perhaps -- but completely abstract, not like drawing pictures of a bunny hop across a screen because this bunny doesn't look like anything you can see. Then on top of it all, you have to learn the notation which is like learning how to write in Arabic. AND THEN on top of it all, this is just to learn how to do it technically, not how to do anything original or creative. Anyway, I learned that it would be a lifelong endeavor for me just to become mediocre, and I did not pursue it, but it was a fascinating and humbling experience.
Lukas
I dare say an experience more than must of us have attempted. I think John Lasher of En'tract, et. has written some orchestral works.
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Sep 27, 2006 - 9:31 PM
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vwing
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I have 9 years of piano lessons but am a self-taught aspiring composer (meaning I'm 17 and would love to pursue this, maybe professionally). I've kind of discovered some tenets of music theory as I've gone along (after all, nothing beats actually doing something for learning it). I have no idea if I have a sound, I'm probably not good enough to have one yet, but I spend hours a day on the piano just trying to think up new melodies and trying to experiment so I don't get tied down to one certain chord progression or type of music.
I would post some here for you guys to listen to, because I'd love honest critiques, but A) I'm not sure if you're allowed to do that on the forum, and B)Even though my stuff probably isn't that good, I don't know if there's a way to post it where I know it'll be safe. If it is allowed, and anyone knows a place where it's relatively safe, then I'd definitely like to post some stuff, because honestly, I have no idea what kind of composer I am right now.
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I took some composition classes in college and it is an extraordinarily difficult discipline.
Anyway, I learned that it would be a lifelong endeavor for me just to become mediocre, and I did not pursue it, but it was a fascinating and humbling experience.
Lukas
Seconded. I started taking music composition, theory, ear training, the whole works. A real discipline, and one for which I didn't have the specific talent. I definitely have a better appreciation and a few skills that help me understand music and musicians SO much better*, plus a couple of Bach-like inventions written for counterpoint class.
*Except I'll never understand why musicians are always late for everything and IF they have an excuse for being late, it's always cockamamie.
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yeah...see my site http://www.char-el.com
bio/sound samples etc. I've writtens tons of stuff & I never had a lesson and don't read music. I taught myself how to play with a few chord books and by learning cover songs & how to program synths back when they had actual knobs
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Sep 28, 2006 - 1:27 PM
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CAT
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I played trumpet 10 years (jazz and classical repertoire), piano for about one, sung in chorus in college, studied music history thoroughly, as well as nearly going for a MA/PhD in music theory and conducting...but not once could I ever, EVER write anything musically that made any damn sense.
indeed, very humbling.
Well, if you even gave it an attempt, I'd have to give you some credit!
While I consider myself, like you, somewhat musically inclined, I have NEVER, NOT ONCE even given it a try!
So kudos to all of you who have!
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