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 Posted:   Jul 4, 2015 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

Agreed, the LLL is the version to go with :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2015 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Yep, the La La Land sound is great.

I believe this film was the first film made in Japan that was released in stereophonic sound.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2015 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   increbula   (Member)

I actually prefer the mono version of the score (available in the Toho Godzilla box). Not only do the cues have more punch and presence, but they are complete and unedited. In contrast, the "stereo" film version contains many truncated cues and awkward segues, which is a turnoff for me.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2015 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

The mono mix is, of course, slightly more punchy-sounding. That is unavoidable and, at the same time, desirable in a mono mix signal--all the sounds overlapping with each other. Plus, the instrument balances are probably different to begin with (unless the mono was just a fold-down of the stereo).

The Toho stereo version actually has a few cues that the mono lacks. The mono disc, however, has more alternate takes.
I am no fan of segued cues, though, that's for sure. I wish the stereo version had not used them. But it is what it is.

I think it's outstanding that Toho included both.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2015 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   increbula   (Member)

The mono mix is, of course, slightly more punchy-sounding. That is unavoidable and, at the same time, desirable in a mono mix signal--all the sounds overlapping with each other. Plus, the instrument balances are probably different to begin with (unless the mono was just a fold-down of the stereo).

I believe the film version of the score utilized the Perspecta Stereophonic Sound system - an essentially fake-stereo process that involved altering the quality of the mono signal across three channels to create the illusion of directional sound (further enhanced with reverb and other audio effects). The film version of Yuji Koseki's score for MOTHRA also used the Perspecta process, and Toho Music's 2-CD soundtrack (released in 2010) offers both versions.

The Toho stereo version actually has a few cues that the mono lacks.

Can you identify which ones? Unless I'm mistaken, the only additional cues in the stereo mix are repeated cues (M16 appears three times) and source music/commercials.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I believe the film version of the score utilized the Perspecta Stereophonic Sound system - an essentially fake-stereo process that involved altering the quality of the mono signal across three channels to create the illusion of directional sound (further enhanced with reverb and other audio effects). The film version of Yuji Koseki's score for MOTHRA also used the Perspecta process, and Toho Music's 2-CD soundtrack (released in 2010) offers both versions.
Can you identify which ones? Unless I'm mistaken, the only additional cues in the stereo mix are repeated cues (M16 appears three times) and source music/commercials.



I made a brief comparison.
The stereo version contains the commercial drum solo; 2 takes of the office party; apartment background music; transistor radio music--all of which are source cues, as you mentioned.
There is also a 28-second piece called "To Japan M28" (track 19) and a 19-second piece called "Godzilla M16" (track 20). These last 2 may have been incorporated into other mono-version tracks without actually being titled as such--I'm not certain, but I think they are stereo-only.

As to whether it's genuine stereo of "fake" as you call it, I'm not really going to make that distinction here as it has little to do with my original comments about my praise of the LLL edition's overall sound quality. It's a significant aspect, certainly, but if Toho calls it stereo and LLL calls it stereo, then I'm calling it stereo too.
For what it's worth, there still seem to be noticeable mix differences between the 2 versions that cannot be accounted for by a conversion to artificial stereo.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   increbula   (Member)

There is also a 28-second piece called "To Japan M28" (track 19) and a 19-second piece called "Godzilla M16" (track 20). These last 2 may have been incorporated into other mono-version tracks without actually being titled as such--I'm not certain, but I think they are stereo-only.

Thanks for the comparison! I believe those two cues are also present in the mono version. Tracks 20, 21 and 26 on the stereo disc (all labeled M16) seem to be derived from Track 17 (also M-16) on the mono disc. And Track 35 (M28) on the stereo disc is the same as Track 29 (M28) on the mono disc. The translated track list on this page is very helpful: http://www.godzillamonstermusic.com/G-003.htm

 
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