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 Posted:   Apr 19, 2005 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Have never heard this score by Elmer B. I was lucky to find an old VHS video of the Movie in a local Music/Video store $1.00 bin. Was the soundtrack ever available? I'll watch and listen soon. For those who have seen the film or heard the music, what are your thoughts on the score? Thanks.



Zoob

One of Maestro Bernstein's early scores from 1957, the same year Jerry Goldsmith scored his First Feature, BLACK PATCH.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2005 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Have never heard this score by Elmer B. I was lucky to find an old VHS video of the Movie in a local Music/Video store $1.00 bin. Was the soundtrack ever available? I'll watch and listen soon. For those who have seen the film or heard the music, what are your thoughts on the score? Thanks.

Zoob

One of Maestro Bernstein's early scores from 1957, the same year Jerry Goldsmith scored his First Feature, BLACK PATCH.


Here's the discography:

http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/browsetitle.php?beginletter=M&offset=1740

(Scroll down to the bottom of the page.)

The score is rather bleak and somber, not awfully melodic, and features a song called (you guessed it) "Men in War," sung by an all-male chorus. I haven't seen the film. It's not the greatest Bernstein listen, frankly, but the score apparently works well in the film, as it merited mention in some of the reviews of the film.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2005 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Alexander Zambra   (Member)

Score was released on LP by Imperial; recently reissued on vinyl (only ) by Vinilo Records in Spain.
An excellent score all around essential to Elmer Bernstein collectors.
Best,
Alexandre

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2005 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   Valere   (Member)

An excellent score to a movie about a forgotten war. KOREA. (It really was not a declared war, Pres. Truman made it a "Police Action" just like Vietnam, which came later.) This score made it onto LP,and is still one of the best representations of that war. Still one of my Elmer favorites!

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2005 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I own the 1-sheet (poster) for this film and have always wanted to see it, as it contains an early performance from Vic Morrow that got him the gig on Combat!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2005 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   opinionated   (Member)

Fine film of the it-takes-all-kinds-to-win-a-war variety. 'Though am huge Bernstein fan, this score not among my favorites. There is a memorable scene where the squad walks through a wood nervously eyeing the treetops for snipers. I seem to recall the use of woodwinds to imitate the sound of birds; Elmer often cited the scene as representative of his style.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2005 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Curiously, for a score that opens with a simple "title song," the music elsewhere comes awfully close to mimicry of Bartok's "Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celesta." I can't think of anywhere else where Elmer Bernstein's style led him in that direction.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2005 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Curiously, for a score that opens with a simple "title song," the music elsewhere comes awfully close to mimicry of Bartok's "Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celesta." I can't think of anywhere else where Elmer Bernstein's style led him in that direction.

It doesn't open with a title song; it opens with
a maze of percussion punctuated by orchestral
bursts. Bernstein re-used this theme in various
scores over the decades.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2005 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Yes, indeed, the most amusing re-use of the MEN IN WAR main title is a slight variation for Robert Stack decking all the Hari Krishnas and other types as he wends his way through the terminal in AIRPLANE.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2005 - 3:37 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Yes, I'd say the opening Main Title was more like what Goldsmith later did with SEVEN DAYS IN MAY. Percussion, Drums with Bursts and Jabs. No real "Theme" per'se.


Zoob



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 Posted:   May 22, 2016 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Just bumping this thread because the film happened to be on TV (again!) here this afternoon in the UK. Once upon a time this picture was hard-to-find, seldom shown. Now a channel called "Movies4Men" screen it a lot. As war films go, it is really very good. Stark, black-and-white images; Robert Ryan was a great actor. Elmer Bernstein's music is just as stark, and very effective, helping to make the film work. One of the times when it all comes together - the direction, the performances, the cinematography, the LOOK of the film seems real and immediate.

Astonished to find that the Kritzerland CD of the Bernstein score did not sell out and is still available (?) There's no accounting for taste!

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2016 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

MEN IN WAR was made for under $1,000,000 and, although it took in only $500,000 domestically at the box office, it took in over $2,000,000 outside the U.S. Reportedly, the film's scoring was done at the Samuel Goldwyn Studios.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2016 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Just bumping this thread because the film happened to be on TV (again!) here this afternoon in the UK. Once upon a time this picture was hard-to-find, seldom shown. Now a channel called "Movies4Men" screen it a lot. As war films go, it is really very good. Stark, black-and-white images; Robert Ryan was a great actor. Elmer Bernstein's music is just as stark, and very effective, helping to make the film work. One of the times when it all comes together - the direction, the performances, the cinematography, the LOOK of the film seems real and immediate.

Astonished to find that the Kritzerland CD of the Bernstein score did not sell out and is still available (?) There's no accounting for taste!


This I agree with. For heaven's sake, it's ELMER. And it's great. You can lead a horse to water, but...

 
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