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 Posted:   Mar 30, 2005 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   scorechaser   (Member)

This is such a great early score by Jerry Goldsmith.

Lukas, is there any chance this score will come anytime soon?

Thank you.

Philipp

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2005 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Universal.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2005 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   scorechaser   (Member)

Damn, can we please ban this word from this forum? Thank you.wink

Philipp

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2005 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

At this point in film music collecting UNIVERSAL & PARAMOUNT are dirty words. We should start using them as swear words on this board.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2005 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

How about TOM JONES in stereo?
UA

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2005 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   tobid   (Member)

At this point in film music collecting UNIVERSAL & PARAMOUNT are dirty words. We should start using them as swear words on this board.

LOL, the people at Paramount are real universals!

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I have listened to the clips on youtube over and over, to me this is one of maestro Jerry's top 7 scores (hard to get away from Blue Max, the Omen, Capricorn One, Alien, Poltergeist, fill-in-the-blanks-yourself) scores, perhaps along with Planet of the Apes it's his most original and challenging.

Yavar is responsible for the vast majority of great Jerry Goldsmith CDs I own now; interestingly I don't think he mentioned this one early on (just teasing, Yavar).

Anyway, even from the awful compressed sound of the YT clips I am really enamored with this score. I so love maestro Jerry's more challenging material...actually that also for my super faves like Rozsa as well (though with Rozsa it showed up in the scores he wrote a bunch of themes for. I so loved the way he'd do variations on the manifold themes in his best scores).

I've heard the Varese Deluxe is actually pretty darn good on sound, but of course I'd go cuckoo for an FSM set.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I have listened to the clips on youtube over and over, to me this is one of maestro Jerry's top 7 scores (hard to get away from Blue Max, the Omen, Capricorn One, Alien, Poltergeist, fill-in-the-blanks-yourself) scores...

I too love Freud, but I'm curious based on the other favorites you listed, where would you rank Shock Treatment, Seconds, City of Fear, and his nervous angular longhair scores for the Twilight Zone TV show?

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I have listened to the clips on youtube over and over, to me this is one of maestro Jerry's top 7 scores (hard to get away from Blue Max, the Omen, Capricorn One, Alien, Poltergeist, fill-in-the-blanks-yourself) scores...

I too love Freud, but I'm curious based on the other favorites you listed, where would you rank Shock Treatment, Seconds, City of Fear, and his nervous angular longhair scores for the Twilight Zone TV show?


Onya, thanks for my new list! smile

That's the thing, my rankings are made partly out of ignorance. I only own the Twilight Zone (which was great but kind of spotty imo), and I definitely like Freud already better than that one (yes I know TZ is a contenda).

Now I can have fun looking up the other scores, thanks for a weekend mission my friend!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Onya, thanks for my new list! smile

That's the thing, my rankings are made partly out of ignorance. I only own the Twilight Zone (which was great but kind of spotty imo), and I definitely like Freud already better than that one (yes I know TZ is a contenda).

Now I can have fun looking up the other scores, thanks for a weekend mission my friend!


The ones I listed have some stylistic similarities to Freud. Also, I am talking about Goldsmith's scores to the original TV show of the Twilight Zone, not the film.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Onya, thanks for my new list! smile

That's the thing, my rankings are made partly out of ignorance. I only own the Twilight Zone (which was great but kind of spotty imo), and I definitely like Freud already better than that one (yes I know TZ is a contenda).

Now I can have fun looking up the other scores, thanks for a weekend mission my friend!


The ones I listed have some stylistic similarities to Freud. Also, I am talking about Goldsmith's scores to the original TV show of the Twilight Zone, not the film.


I...wow I had no idea of that release (embarrassed).

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

[Yoda voice] There is much you do not know, hmm? [/Yoda voice]

It's actually very simple why I haven't pushed Freud. It's out of print and a more definitive issue will hopefully happen one day. Similar reason why in the western recommendations I wasn't pushing my absolute favorite, Jerry's deepest western score for the best western film he ever scored: Lonely Are the Brave is ridiculously expensive on the secondhand market.

Jerry Goldsmith was IMO the greatest (and most prolific save Morricone) film composer of all time; there are so many great scores of his for you to explore that *are* in print and available to you at a reasonable price right now. Enough to keep you occupied for the next year at least, even at the rate you've been buying them. And in that year, some of the OOP expensive ones will surely get a new (probably improved) edition. Maybe Freud will be one of them, maybe not. But I agree it is a great five star score, one of his early masterpieces, and his very first Oscar nomination...which is why I think a reissue will eventually happen.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

[Yoda voice] There is much you do not know, hmm? [/Yoda voice]

It's actually very simple why I haven't pushed Freud. It's out of print and a more definitive issue will hopefully happen one day. Similar reason why in the western recommendations I wasn't pushing my absolute favorite, Jerry's deepest western score for the best western film he ever scored: Lonely Are the Brave is ridiculously expensive on the secondhand market.

Jerry Goldsmith was IMO the greatest (and most prolific save Morricone) film composer of all time; there are so many great scores of his for you to explore that *are* in print and available to you at a reasonable price right now. Enough to keep you occupied for the next year at least, even at the rate you've been buying them. And in that year, some of the OOP expensive ones will surely get a new (probably improved) edition. Maybe Freud will be one of them, maybe not. But I agree it is a great five star score, one of his early masterpieces, and his very first Oscar nomination...which is why I think a reissue will eventually happen.

Yavar


I found the Varese Deluxe for a not-terrible price and scooped it up. I couldn't wait, this is already a score that has directly inspired me. I'm curious about the Wilder film as well.

I imagine FSM would do their usual, collector-delighting job if they ever reissued this...but I bet there are aplenty of JG scores ahead of it in line so...sigh.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well...FSM actually ceased operations as a label in 2013 with their Deluxe 250th release, a three disc set of Jerry Fielding's The Wild Bunch...so any more definitive Goldsmith won't be coming from them but Intrada/LLL/Quartet.

But I'm very happy for you that you found Freud for a reasonable price. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Well...FSM actually ceased operations as a label in 2013 with their Deluxe 250th release, a three disc set of Jerry Fielding's The Wild Bunch...so any more definitive Goldsmith won't be coming from them but Intrada/LLL/Quartet.

But I'm very happy for you that you found Freud for a reasonable price. smile

Yavar


Once more, I picked the right avatar! smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

The Varese release is absolutely great and in stellar sound, but it's tragic to me that it doesn't include the alternate version of "A Desperate Case" that wound up in Alien. The ending of that piece is one of the most powerful and frightening things Goldsmith ever wrote and its inclusion in Alien makes it iconic. I love the film version included on the Varese release but by leaving off the alternate it seems that version is now lost to the ages as far as having it in good sound goes--maybe the elements just weren't available and it only exists as the Citadel album master.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

The Varese release is absolutely great and in stellar sound, but it's tragic to me that it doesn't include the alternate version of "A Desperate Case" that wound up in Alien. The ending of that piece is one of the most powerful and frightening things Goldsmith ever wrote and its inclusion in Alien makes it iconic. I love the film version included on the Varese release but by leaving off the alternate it seems that version is now lost to the ages as far as having it in good sound goes--maybe the elements just weren't available and it only exists as the Citadel album master.

Hey, thanks for psyching me out smile

The only version I've heard is the OST, and I imagine the Varese cleaned up the boo-boos on it nicely.

Would freak to see a La La Land or Intrada release. And fork out zee moolah.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2018 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

The Varese release is absolutely great and in stellar sound, but it's tragic to me that it doesn't include the alternate version of "A Desperate Case" that wound up in Alien. The ending of that piece is one of the most powerful and frightening things Goldsmith ever wrote and its inclusion in Alien makes it iconic. I love the film version included on the Varese release but by leaving off the alternate it seems that version is now lost to the ages as far as having it in good sound goes--maybe the elements just weren't available and it only exists as the Citadel album master.

Hey, thanks for psyching me out smile

The only version I've heard is the OST, and I imagine the Varese cleaned up the boo-boos on it nicely.

Would freak to see a La La Land or Intrada release. And fork out zee moolah.


It's the other way around. The alternate version that you talk about is the version of "A Desperate Case" IS the one heard in the film (I have a D.V.D.-R. copy of it) while the version on the Citadel album is a poorly recorded version, while a more definitive edition cries out for inclusion of the original version. Also, several short cues are missing, along with the electronic music composed by Gino Marinuzzi that was perfdrmed by Henk Bedings for the dream sequences.

 
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