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 Posted:   Feb 16, 2004 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

Does anyone this great score. It´s really a little haunting masterpiece which really deserves a release. I know the film is a MGM production, but I´ve heard that the rights of the soundtrack belong now to Universal. Is this right?

Verve prepared a LP for release at the time of the film´s release but they never issued this.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2004 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Ferrante   (Member)

I would *love* to see this score on CD, it's such a masterpiece. The movie is a masterpiece, too! If you want to learn more about the vinyl album that was planned for release look at this great McFarland site: http://www.dougpayne.com/gary1.htm . According to Doug Payne, the master is still in the archives of Verve and in good condition. A possible chance for a release comes from Perseverance Records (http://www.perseverancerecords.com). The owner is (according to the replies he wrote to an aquantaince of mine) at least not uninterested in getting it released. Maybe if more people email him showing interest in this score.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2004 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Sir T.   (Member)

I remember McFarland's score as being an original and exciting take on the genre, notably mixing jazz and vocal effects.

On the other hand, I remember the movie as being unredeemingly ludicrous.

Wasn'it an MGM production?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2004 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

Yes, it was from MGM.

And the movie isn´t really good. David Niven is extremely miscast and the only notable aspects of the movie are McFarlands score and the early appearances of Sharon Tate and David Hemmings.

The Innocents and Eye of the Devil would make a good pair on a CD. Both a spooky thrillers starring Deborah Kerr. But nothing of Georges Auric´s score has survived, or?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2004 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

As I recall, The film was a famously troubled production and suffered from re-editing right up until it's release, so it may be unfair to judge it as it stands. I do remember the McFarland score being rather nice and would love to hear the aborted Verve album masters.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2004 - 1:43 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

I thought all these Marty Ransohoff-Filmways pictures were in the Turner Entertainment library now controlled by Warner Bros. I would assume the music masters were as well, an old Verve LP master notwithstanding.

Perhaps Lukas could check on this for a Silver Age FSM release.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2004 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

This is one of those films I saw when I was young and sensitive, and I thought it was great! Maybe if I saw it now I'd see the bad bits. But I'll always remember the score. It stands out quite well in the movie. I was so struck by this score that I bought the first Gary McFarland jazz LP I saw, back in about 1986. Something with an eagle on the cover. He also did arrangements for Galt MacDermot on the truly wondrous COTTON COMES TO HARLEM.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2008 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Does anyone this great score. It´s really a little haunting masterpiece which really deserves a release. I know the film is a MGM production, but I´ve heard that the rights of the soundtrack belong now to Universal. Is this right?

Verve prepared a LP for release at the time of the film´s release but they never issued this.


FSM has released this Melchior/
just in case you missed it....

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2008 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)


Perhaps Lukas could check on this for a Silver Age FSM release.


good suggestion, Manderley!

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Here's a DVD/CD on Gary McFarland ...




... a documentary on him plus a never before released live recording.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

When I think of McFarland my thoughts revert to his loss down someone else's methadone alley. When I read 'that' in the CD liner notes, it was not immediately reconcilable.

The soundtrack certainly occupies a niche.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

When I think of McFarland my thoughts revert to his loss down someone else's methadone alley. When I read 'that' in the CD liner notes, it was not immediately reconcilable.


I'm not sure exactly what you mean.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

McFarland was with a group of people having a drink. One of the people at the table with McFarland and co was a drug addict in the process of taking methadone as a treatment to their habit. That person doused the drinks of several people sitting at that table with their medication content for reasons that have not been disclosed. Just how do you poison several people's drinks while out in a public space, all the while maintaining non-disclosure of true intent?

The end result was that McFarland (and a friend) was taken down by someone he did not know for reasons that have never been disclosed. Imagine coming into unlikely contact with someone you don't know but whose murderous intent towards you is not disclosed because you are in a normal looking situation with other people and there is nothing you can extract from that situation that could alert you to impending danger?

It was a most unusual case whose fleeting details left me feeling quite disconcerted.

http://www.dougpayne.com/gmjoey.htm

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz/3-JV0B1j7CU

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

McFarland was with a group of people having a drink. One of the people at the table with McFarland and co was a drug addict in the process of taking methadone as a treatment to their habit. That person doused the drinks of several people sitting at that table with their medication content for reasons that have not been disclosed. Just how do you poison several people's drinks while out in a public space, all the while maintaining non-disclosure of true intent?

The end result was that McFarland (and a friend) was taken down by someone he did not know for reasons that have never been disclosed. Imagine coming into unlikely contact with someone you don't know but whose murderous intent towards you is not disclosed because you are in a normal looking situation with other people and there is nothing you can extract from that situation that could alert you to impending danger?

It was a most unusual case whose fleeting details left me feeling quite disconcerted.



Thanks. I am familiar with the story. I couldn't tell from your previous post if there was an implication beyond the reported story.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

How do you read the situation McFarland and Burnett were in? Could they have already been on the road to being quite seriously drunk when the third party joined them? So many scenarios to confound and confuse, no?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

How do you read the situation McFarland and Burnett were in? Could they have already been on the road to being quite seriously drunk when the third party joined them? So many scenarios to confound and confuse, no?

Multiple scenarios are possible, I suppose. A lot of crazy things went down in the 60s and 70s, dosing others' drinks with various pharmaceuticals among them. Graham Nash was notorious for this.

As far as McFarland and Burnett, they could have been very drunk. On the other hand, in a crowded bar, there are lots of distractions. Does anyone keep their eyes on their glass at all times? You need only to lean over and talk to the person next to you for a few moments.

I have read - possibly in the CD liner notes, possibly elsewhere - that the identity of the guilty party has been reasonably speculated, and that his intentions likely extended beyond simply adding to the frivolity of the proceedings.

It was probably bad luck all around, not unlike Dave Lambert getting struck and killed by a car while changing a flat tire on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

These things happen. There is the recent case of a 'disabled' olympian and the 'illegal killing' of his 'contested' girlfriend. What is fact and what is fiction? (you don't have to answer that - I merely bring it up because the combined scenario is full of slanted viewpoints.)

 
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