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 Posted:   Dec 16, 2000 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   keyser soze   (Member)

i would highly recomend the usual suspects score. i loved it from the minute it hit my discman. i have heard that THE GAME's score is similar but much darker. this is appealing to me, and if anyone has it please tell me if it is good

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2000 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   Dutch   (Member)

Soze, I wasn't that impressed with "The Game," but the other Ottman I would highly recommend is "Goodbye Lover," which is similar to "The Usual Suspects". You might like that. And, by the way, if you like Ottman, you might want to listen to soundtracks written by Christopher Young who writes in this style. (I can barely tell them apart.)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2000 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

keyser, I've got both those scores. I like The Usual Suspects quite a lot, but I wouldn't go overboard about it. I know a lot of people love this Ottman score, but I can't really understand all the praise heaped on it. Maybe I ought to give it another spin.

The Game is something I got because I absolutely adored the movie, and the score went a long way in keeping the film permanently on edge. On its own though it's very dense and heavy, in fact a real chore to get through.

All in my humble opinion, of course.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2000 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

After being introduced to John Ottman through The Usual Suspects, I went on a bender and picked up Apt Pupil, The Cable Guy, Incognito and Snow White - A Tale of Terror (haven't heard The Game or Lake Placid, though). I loved the atmospheric Suspects and felt it deserved the notice it got, but I found the rest to be disappointingly ponderous. In general I prefer Christopher Young's work, particularly The Dark Half and Hush -- I think Young has a better feel for melody and is more diverse and inventive, not so relentlessly heavy. Just an opinion, of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2000 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   AndrĂ© Lux   (Member)


I think THE GAME was composed by Howard Shore.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2000 - 1:10 AM   
 By:   Dutch   (Member)

Correcto! Howard Shore definitely wrote the score to "The Game." Zzzzzzzzz!

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2005 - 1:55 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I just picked up this beauty in the "Silver Screen Edition." I'm listening to it right now, so far a very good score from Ottman. I am quickly starting to appreciate his work a bit more with each score I pick up.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Johnny W   (Member)

I just picked up this beauty in the "Silver Screen Edition." I'm listening to it right now, so far a very good score from Ottman. I am quickly starting to appreciate his work a bit more with each score I pick up.

Has anyone compared this 2005 remaster to the original release?

I know FSM ripped into Milan when they "remastered" the Elmer Bernstien conducts Bernard Herrmann CD some years ago.

"Compared to the original release, which has the exact same tracks, the new edition sports a remastering job that raises some questions. Overall, it's significantly louder. The sound of the recording venue's reverb and even the quietest musical notes are more easily heard, but at the sacrifice of the overall excitement the music. The string tone is silkier compared to the original, but the dynamic control of the orchestra is out of Mr. Bernstein's hands and into those of the mastering engineer. Make no mistake, this remastering did more damage than good."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

This is a perpetual bargain bin find. I should pick it up one day.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Other than the End Title (the Main Theme), which I still listen to a great deal, this and most all other Ottman scores for Singer's movies are temptrack shitshows. The Usual Suspects is one of the worst ones, but as musical cheating goes, it succeeds in the film. To those who are just getting into this, do you know all the scores he drew from for this? Stuff like JFK, Basic Instinct, The Abyss, etc.

I can't stand that filmmakers who seem to really care about the artform, about film music, are the worst offenders of temp tracking in Hollywood. I soured kinda quickly on Ottman, once he showed all he could offer in his first few scores (similar to how I feel about Giacchino, as unpopular as that opinion is around here), but his best work is away from Singer. Mostly that Incognito score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Other than the End Title (the Main Theme), which I still listen to a great deal, this and most all other Ottman scores for Singer's movies are temptrack shitshows. The Usual Suspects is one of the worst ones, but as musical cheating goes, it succeeds in the film. To those who are just getting into this, do you know all the scores he drew from for this? Stuff like JFK, Basic Instinct, The Abyss, etc.

I can't stand that filmmakers who seem to really care about the artform, about film music, are the worst offenders of temp tracking in Hollywood. I soured kinda quickly on Ottman, once he showed all he could offer in his first few scores (similar to how I feel about Giacchino, as unpopular as that opinion is around here), but his best work is away from Singer. Mostly that Incognito score.


Interesting. I know nothing about Ottman, and the only Giacchino I've heard is "The Incredibles," which I generally like.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Other than the End Title (the Main Theme), which I still listen to a great deal, this and most all other Ottman scores for Singer's movies are temptrack shitshows.

How can you damn the whole score but like the main title... which is a swipe from the title to The Elephant Man?

That said, I really enjoy the score but as it's built around the film's editing. The film is brilliantly written and edited and the way it unfolds (the editing reveals the music, and not the other way around) is really something else. Props to Ottman for his output here.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Other than the End Title (the Main Theme), which I still listen to a great deal, this and most all other Ottman scores for Singer's movies are temptrack shitshows.

How can you damn the whole score but like the main title... which is a swipe from the title to The Elephant Man?

That said, I really enjoy the score but as it's built around the film's editing. The film is brilliantly written and edited and the way it unfolds (the editing reveals the music, and not the other way around) is really something else. Props to Ottman for his output here.


Oh, no shit? I haven't seen The Elephant Man since well before The Usual Suspects, so I don't even remember the music. Now the whole thing is ruined! Haha

 
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