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I'm not familiar with these scores,not that that will stop me buying them
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As to ITALIA ´61, here also some additional infos: This 28 minute film was reconstructed for the 50th anniversary of the World Fair in Turin in 2011. But the production company couldn´t find the magnetic sound tracks - originally, the sound had been recorded on six magnetic tracks in 1961 - anymore so that only the film without any sound could be shown. You can also view this now silent film (but only the part shot with one camera) on Youtube. A very strange affair.
The 10" LP of the score which was issued in early 1962 is hyper-rare and you can be sure that also nobody on this board here does have a copy of it. Ironically, in the "McNally`s Price Guide for Soundtrack Collectors" book from 1994 you can find the following info about this 10" LP:
"We have only seen this on want lists of some very advanced collectors. Its existence is not verified".
But I can tell you: This 10" LP had indeed been released - maybe only a few hundred copies most of which were then immediately deleted when the Circarama attraction was over in 1962.
You're right, Stefan. I've never seen that 10" LP on Italia '61; seems to me that that disc could be the Italian equivalent of RCA's The Caine Mutiny vinyl record.
[interestingly, IMDB does list Italia '61, but very little credits are attached to this entry so it doesn't appear within their Lavagnino filmography]
I wonder what has happen to those 'advanced collectors' that McNally referred to? Some individuals born during the late 1930s or throughout the 1940s might have seen Calypso in 1958 - or Italia '61 in '61/'62 - as young adults and might possibly retain recollections upon it. I don't expect such persons are all deceased.
I also wonder if today's current 'advanced collectors' (and those in the future will) possess both care for, & information about, rare European vinyl pressings from the 1950s, '60s & '70s ...
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You're right, Stefan. I've never seen that 10" LP on Italia '61; seems to me that that disc could be the Italian equivalent of RCA's The Caine Munity vinyl record.
[interestingly, IMDB does list Italia '61, but very little credits are attached to this entry so it doesn't appear within their Lavagnino filmography]
I wonder what has happen to those 'advanced collectors' that McNally referred to? Some individuals born during the late 1930s or throughout the 1940s might have seen Calypso in 1958 - or Italia '61 in '61/'62 - as young adults and might possibly retain recollections upon it. I don't expect such persons are all deceased.
IMDB gives the director credit of ITALIA ´61 to the Polish Jan Lenica which is wrong. The short documentary was directed by the Italian filmmaker Elio Piccon who is not mentioned on IMDB.
Yes, it is correct that the ITALIA ´61 10" LP is almost the equivalent of RCA´s CAINE MUTINY LP.
For me it is quite obvious who is meant by those "advanced collectors" in the McNally Price Guide. I could even give you some names because most of these collectors - who around 1994 when the book was published were already in their 50s or 60s, and quite a few of them have unfortunately passed away in the meantime - had always placed ads on the trade market pages of the Belgian Soundtrack Collector´s Newsletter magazine (which later on became "Soundtrack Magazine") at the end of the 70s and early 80s. So at that time you knew which rare records these people had for trade and what they were still looking for. I have known a few of them personally throughout the years, but almost no one of them did have that ITALIA´61 10" LP.
My friend Alessandro Panuccio in Rome - who usually does the transfers of the Lavagnino tapes and who writes the CD booklet text "Memories of Lavagnino" - did indeed buy that 10" LP in Rome in 1962 even at a normal price and he is also one of those very few older collectors who had seen the short documentary in 1961. But then during the 70s and 80s it became impossible even in Italy to find any copy of that 10" LP anymore.
By the way, not even Alessandro had seen the CALYPSO film in 1959 when it was released, although he had previously during the 1950s seen all of the more popular documentaries like CONTINENTE PERDUTO, ULTIMO PARADISO etc. in Italian cinemas. Already during the 60s the CALYPSO movie became a rarity in Italy and was not shown publicly anymore.
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Hi Stefan, just to echo the comments of MCurry29, cannot wait to hear this, the samples are great!
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There hasn't been any activity in this thread for over 15 months … so, 'tag', I'm it.
With respect to this album's main program, I'm more enamored by Italia '61 in Circarama.
Lavagnino's orchestral compositions for cinema documentaries impress me most when conceived as symphonic poems. I love L'oceano ci chiama best in this regard and Italia '61 in Circarama bids well for 2nd place in this category.
Begging Stefan's indulgence, I'm curious about how the 3 tracks are positioned in its 10"LP.
Does "Rapsodia Italiana" have cues 1 + 2 on its 1st side (totaling 14.5 minutes) with the 5.5 minute 'Italia '61' on the opposite side? Or is side A only 7 minutes with side B equaling 13 minutes? Or … mayhaps … are the entire 20 minutes on a single side with no playable surface on the reverse?
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Begging Stefan's indulgence, I'm curious about how the 3 tracks are positioned in its 10"LP.
Does "Rapsodia Italiana" have cues 1 + 2 on its 1st side (totaling 14.5 minutes) with the 5.5 minute 'Italia '61' on the opposite side? Or is side A only 7 minutes with side B equaling 13 minutes?
I myself also don´t have this top rare ITALIA ´61/RAPSODIA ITALIANA 10" LP and had to wait for the reply of my Roman friend Alessandro Panuccio who is one of the few people around the world who has it. I just got the reply from him and can therefore tell you that indeed only the first track "Dalle Alpi al mare" with 7 minutes is on side A of this 10" LP whereas the other two tracks are on side B.
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Thank you to Mr. Panuccio and Stefan for the information ... and for making this album available on CD.
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