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 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


BUT I rewatched it last year and this film really didn't age well.



Nor did the fine music, spoiled by those dated synths.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Not sure about "terrible" movies, but the composer I'd nominate for "the finest scores for movies no-one ever saw or cares to remember" is John Scott.


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Dec 6, 2018 - 12:53 PM   

By:  
kaseykockroach   (Member)

Pretty much everything assigned to John Scott.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)


A movie that was definitely misunderstood -- very much to my surprise -- was STARSHIP TROOPERS, also by Verhoeven, a splendid movie and one of the most subversive satires to ever come out of Hollywood. Perhaps Verhoeven's greatest Hollywood achievement was that he got that movie greenlighted and produced. Yet some actually took it at face value!


Troopers is excellent, misunderstood for sure, it's a winking satire gung ho propaganda piece. I recall the usual type Voerhoeven controversy about showing a lot of skin in the co-ed showers scene. The effects still are quite amazing, and the score is fantastic.


Also agree on this one. I’ve watched it may times and it is always a fun ride.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

A thread like this just goes to show how difficult it is to agree on what is an awful film. One person's awful film is another person's masterpiece and vice versa.

Yes but some things are recognized facts: The Swarm, Batman & Robin, King Kong Lives are universally considered bombs!

Other movies are not The Burbs, Poltergeist II, Jaws the Revenge.

Even opinions have some limits in common sense!


Hom many people in the world believe there is something to be saved from JAWS IV ? Ha! big grin


Just read my post in the first page listing some undeniable qualities of Jaws IV and I’m sure you will be converted!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

I am absolutely floored at the idea of Under Fire being a "terrible movie, great score" situation. That score is an inextricable part of that movie's heart and soul.

Anyway, this topic deserves to be split in two: The Jerry Goldsmith wing, and the everyone else wing.

Orca
Exorcist II (Morricone)
The Amityville Horror (Schifrin)
Lifeforce (Mancini)
The Bride
Tai Pan (Jarre)
Saturn 3 (Bernstein)
Krull (Horner, I know this movie has developed a following, but I never got it)
Cherry 2000 (Poledouris)
King Kong Lives (Scott)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

Not sure about "terrible" movies, but the composer I'd nominate for "the finest scores for movies no-one ever saw or cares to remember" is John Scott.

You don't know what love is until you find yourself watching Inseminoid because John Scott did the music.

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Ok, the original poster first lists The Burbs as a terrible movie, but now I see people listing Jaws The Revenge (!), are you all insane?
I think maybe Jaws The Revenge was a bit ahead of its time but it is far from being terrible.


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   rcashill   (Member)

I am absolutely floored at the idea of Under Fire being a "terrible movie, great score" situation. That score is an inextricable part of that movie's heart and soul.

Anyway, this topic deserves to be split in two: The Jerry Goldsmith wing, and the everyone else wing.

Orca
Exorcist II (Morricone)
The Amityville Horror (Schifrin)
Lifeforce (Mancini)
The Bride
Tai Pan (Jarre)
Saturn 3 (Bernstein)
Krull (Horner, I know this movie has developed a following, but I never got it)
Cherry 2000 (Poledouris)
King Kong Lives (Scott)


...and further broken down into the John Barry wing...HOWARD THE DUCK, MURDER BY PHONE, THE LEGEND OF THE LONE RANGER, RAISE THE TITANIC, etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)



...and further broken down into the John Barry wing...HOWARD THE DUCK, MURDER BY PHONE, THE LEGEND OF THE LONE RANGER, RAISE THE TITANIC, etc.


I feel that Kong '76 is a borderline candidate as well. I know it's not exactly a terrible movie per se, but the score outclasses the film by miles.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   rcashill   (Member)

The film's a masterpiece compared with THE SCARLET LETTER and other dud movies on Barry's resume. When friends comb through my collection they inevitably pause at a Barry or Goldsmith title and say "You have this?," thinking it's the DVD or Blu-ray and not the soundtrack...

 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

Not sure about "terrible" movies, but the composer I'd nominate for "the finest scores for movies no-one ever saw or cares to remember" is John Scott.


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Dec 6, 2018 - 12:53 PM   

By:  
kaseykockroach   (Member)

Pretty much everything assigned to John Scott.



This.
And "YOR, the Hunter from the Future" quite easily tops the list IMHO.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2018 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

Ok, the original poster first lists The Burbs as a terrible movie, but now I see people listing Jaws The Revenge (!), are you all insane?
I think maybe Jaws The Revenge was a bit ahead of its time but it is far from being terrible.




Those preview clips are missing the score! No wonder it got a bad review!

 
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