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 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Neat -- thanks for sharing that!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Neat -- thanks for sharing that!

Yavar



Next topic.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

But for someone like Thor..to bark about expanded scores..when in the past here..complains about expanded scores..and why he doesn’t buy or listen..is in expanded score threads.

While that is true - and Lukas Kendall himself directly told Thor to knock it off or he'd be banned - you're not going to win anyone, anywhere with the wild punches you're swinging.

Actually, this it the thread about John Williams' thoughts on DRACULA and how movie genres blur. The expanded Dracula score thread is just about next door, not far away down the hall. Glad I could help.

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.


Hey Lehah... you wanna buy a "Black Knight" figure that I have? Mint in the box! 12 inches tall, with detachable limbs!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Hey Lehah... you wanna buy a "Black Knight" figure that I have? Mint in the box! 12 inches tall, with detachable limbs!

Combat-ready for job interviews?

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

The LSoH magazine issue on Badham's Dracula that Bagby quoted from is first rate in every way. I've always loved the movie, and delighted with the stories behind it.

It'll be fun to flip through soon with the newly released score expansion!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Hey Lehah... you wanna buy a "Black Knight" figure that I have? Mint in the box! 12 inches tall, with detachable limbs!

Combat-ready for job interviews?

Absolutely!

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2018 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Thanks, Bagby. That was a very interesting read, and does explain somewhat why this score in particular seems to have been one he enjoyed working on.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2018 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Actually, this it the thread about John Williams' thoughts on DRACULA and how movie genres blur. The expanded Dracula score thread is just about next door, not far away down the hall. Glad I could help.

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.

Muhahahaha... one of the funniest scetches ever shown on any TV show. :-)

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2018 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   sajrocks   (Member)

great original question and zomg that interview excerpt!

williams touches on this a bit in the interview, but obviously he was attracted to the film's gothic romance and likely influenced by musical antecedents from horror films of the 30s and 40s (assuming 'dracula', 'bride of frankenstein', maybe 'the wolfman', etc.) -- melodic, minor mode, diminished, grand, sweeping, occasionally dissonant. though he mentions bernard herrmann as an inspiration, from 'psycho' on the horror/suspense genre kinda went towards more extreme dissonant, atonal, and/or avant garde electronic especially in the 70s, save for a few prime examples (e.g. goldsmith's 'omen', except that's pretty darn dissonant.)

is it possible that williams was wanting to do for 'dracula' what he did for 'star wars'--bring the classical romantic idiom back to a genre that had lost the life blood (!) of full orchestral invention? and if so, was it a success? i struggle to find subsequent examples except perhaps kilar's work on 'bram stoker's dracula', and maybe some of elfman's work on 'dark shadows' or 'the wolfman', though the latter two seem a little more in the pastiche vein.

i'm hoping those of you with more film music knowledge than mine (most of you?) have some thoughts to williams's contribution to the evolution/devolution of music for the horror genre.

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   Mike S   (Member)

Sometimes enjoy eating the hot dog and ignore how it's made.

MV


Doesn't Ford A. Thaxton say the same thing?


Doesn't mean its wrong. Sometimes you guys overanalyze so much you lose sight of why you love this stuff in the first place.

MV


Put it on a sign above the door.

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Sajrocks, I have the original Dracula LP, which contains the kind of ever so brief reverse side notes from John Badham.

I don't refer to the album that often as I don't have a turntable, however, I seem to recall that JW admitted he had never ever seen so much as a single sprocket's worth of a film frame from the 'Dracula' portfolio of offerings up to the point of that film's creation.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

most impressive

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I almost forgot. The opening to the Earthquake LP has slight differences to the film entrance. The movie has light ambient, almost dissonant noise creeping around before the full fledged title hits us and the theme thunders out of the screen. Dracula has a similar entrance on the LP album. You have this mysterious building surround noise before the theme rises and bites you between the eyes. Isn't Earthquake from the Mirisch stable? Is there a possible connection why the two films have a very similar structural opening?

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2018 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

Amazon categorizes Dracula 1979 under Horror. Netflix (unsurprisingly) doesn't even carry it for streaming OR DVD rental. But Rotten Tomatoes has you all covered with "Art House & International, Drama, Horror, Romance". smile

 
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