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Oct 15, 2018 - 12:14 AM
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mortenbond
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I am going through a Jerry Goldsmith marathon these days, and especially enjoy his 60s output. Now, this might have been covered in other posts, but to me the recordings of these 60s scores, like Rio Conchos, Von Ryan`s Express, (to lesser extent) Bandolero, 100 Rifles, Satan Bug etc, have - at least to my ear - a very shrill sound. Compared to, say John Barry`s scores from the same era, these scores seem to have a"cheaper" sound. Is it down to the technical quality of the recordings, or is it down to the orchestration? The strings are not soft, but rather screeching. The trumpets are blaring to the extent that they are annoying sometimes. Not majestic - like in some later efforts, like Patton, Ransom etc. To me it seems like a technical aspect of the recording, perhaps worsened by the orchestrations.
Any thoughts?
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" am going through a Jerry Goldsmith marathon these days, and especially enjoy his 60s output. Now, this might have been covered in other posts, but to me the recordings of these 60s scores, like Rio Conchos, Von Ryan`s Express, (to lesser extent) Bandolero, 100 Rifles, Satan Bug etc, have - at least to my ear - a very shrill sound. Compared to, say John Barry`s scores from the same era, these scores seem to have a"cheaper" sound. Is it down to the technical quality of the recordings, or is it down to the orchestration? The strings are not soft, but rather screeching. The trumpets are blaring to the extent that they are annoying sometimes. Not majestic - like in some later efforts, like Patton, Ransom etc. To me it seems like a technical aspect of the recording, perhaps worsened by the orchestrations.
Any thoughts?"
Bitch, bitch, bitch.
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I am going through a Jerry Goldsmith marathon these days, and especially enjoy his 60s output. Now, this might have been covered in other posts, but to me the recordings of these 60s scores, like Rio Conchos, Von Ryan`s Express, (to lesser extent) Bandolero, 100 Rifles, Satan Bug etc, have - at least to my ear - a very shrill sound. Compared to, say John Barry`s scores from the same era, these scores seem to have a"cheaper" sound.
I know that in the early 60s, Henry Mancini was deeply concerned about the fact that recording stages in Hollywood were falling behind the times technically, and pushed for the studios to modernize them. Perhaps Fox (where Goldsmith was working most of the time in the 60s) took a while to get around to updating their stage. I never thought the recordings made the Fox stage in those days sounded very good. The Illustrated Man (done at Warner Bros.) sounds noticeably superior to Planet of the Apes.
John Barry was recording in England in the 60s -- primarily CTS -- whose gear was technically more up-to-snuff. Compare the Patton soundtrack (recorded at Fox) to the Patton album (done at CTS), and there's a huge difference in sonic clarity. Fox was arguably a "better room" acoustically, but the recording equipment at CTS was unquestionably more modern at that time.
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