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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2018 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

May have be discussed before, anyone have both the Nic Raine re-record and original put out by Roundtable? If so any significant differences?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2018 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Very significant differences. The harpsichord mix in the original recording sounds dreamy, which is perfect for the film, whereas the Nic Raine re-recording (excellent in its own right) sounds more like a concert version, with very little reverb and echo.

Another important difference is the sound of the chorus, not to mention the 'gasps' Barry indicated in the score for the singers to perform (entirely absent in the Raine recording), which just adds to the magical feel of this score.

Walkabout is one of Barry's crowning achievements as a composer, and I highly recommend you get both recordings, because each has something different to offer.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I listened to samples online and I found this to be boring, except IIRC for a sitar and tabla track.

I guess I just don't get John Barry. I like the Connery-era Bond, The Knack, Ipcress, the Persuaders theme. And then it's a steep drop down.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I listened to samples online and I found this to be boring, except IIRC for a sitar and tabla track.

I guess I just don't get John Barry. I like the Connery-era Bond, The Knack, Ipcress, the Persuaders theme. And then it's a steep drop down.


That’s ok. If your liking for John Barry stops at The Pursuaders it still encompasses a white hot innovative period that few film composers have equalled.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I listened to samples online and I found this to be boring, except IIRC for a sitar and tabla track.

I guess I just don't get John Barry. I like the Connery-era Bond, The Knack, Ipcress, the Persuaders theme. And then it's a steep drop down.


Boring... Walkabout...

I respect your opinion, of course, but... oh, man... boring?

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I thought this was printed in limited quantities and long sold out. Evidently I was wrong because it's still available on CD from Roundtable.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

The Walkabout CD wasn't limited in quantity, it was limited in distribution outlets.

The Round Table is the way to go.

And it's one of the greatest movie scores ever recorded in my opinion.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   vinylman   (Member)

The Walkabout CD wasn't limited in quantity, it was limited in distribution outlets
(And it's one of the greatest movie scores ever recorded in my opinion).


Ditto!



 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

What I find most amazing about Walkabout and John Barry is that in the year 1971 Barry wrote Walkabout, Diamonds Are Forever, Mary Queen of Scots AND The Last Valley. Absolutely amazing.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah that is some impressively varied but high quality output.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Boring... Walkabout...

I respect your opinion, of course, but... oh, man... boring?


I should clarify: My opinion was based only on the audio samples when the album was released a few years back. Today I found a 27-minute suite on the InterTubes and listened to the whole thing.

I have never seen the film, and I'm sure the score was very effective in the film, but it is not the kind of music I would enjoy listening to on its own. Other examples of this would include Carter Burwell's scores for Cohen Brothers films, or Michael Nyman's scores for Peter Greenaway films. I like them in the context of the films, but I would never want to listen to them on their own.

A few years back, I started two threads on two composers who run hot and cold for me: Elmer Bernstein and John Barry. Others posted YouTube links to tracks for me to check out, and I judiciously did so, every one of them.

What I realized about both composers was that they tended to write very diatonic music, and that the tracks or scores I liked by these composers tended to be more chromatic. That said, I realize that a film composer is writing works made for hire and has to deliver what is requested.

I can't help but feel that Barry lost his edge sometime in the late 1960s. Maybe it was when Jane Birkin dumped him? I dunno. Mid-60s Barry tended to use more jazzy harmonies and interesting chord juxtapositions, especially with unrelated minor chords. But the "Born Free" Barry began to dominate, and I started losing interest.

What I really love about my favorite Barry stuff is the hypnotic repetition peppered by unexpected twists and surprises. It functions for me very much like my favorite downtempo electronica: It is great to work to, and has a way of engaging my brain enough to partially listen, while not distracting me from writing and editing (which is primarily what I do for my day gig).

At any rate, back to "Walkabout," I did like the track with the Moon Buggy Ride orchestration. And back to Jane Birkin, I don't blame her one bit for hooking up with Serge Gainsbourg. YMMV.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

I listened to samples online and I found this to be boring, except IIRC for a sitar and tabla track.

I guess I just don't get John Barry. I like the Connery-era Bond, The Knack, Ipcress, the Persuaders theme. And then it's a steep drop down.


I guess I just don't get you big grin.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

What I find most amazing about Walkabout and John Barry is that in the year 1971 Barry wrote Walkabout, Diamonds Are Forever, Mary Queen of Scots AND The Last Valley. Absolutely amazing.

Clearly the pinnacle of Barry's career.

Up until then, he was the greatest ever.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I guess I just don't get you big grin.

Alex


I doubt you took the time to read my second post to try to understand why.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

I doubt you took the time to read my second post to try to understand why.

I did read it, and I doubt the reason you dislike Barry and Bernstein is because they wrote diatonic music, otherwise you would dislike pretty much any other film composer that has ever existed.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I did read it, and I doubt the reason you dislike Barry and Bernstein is because they wrote diatonic music, otherwise you would dislike pretty much any other film composer that has ever existed.

Alex


Thanks. I thought that I leaned toward chromaticism and more complex chord voicings, but it seems that you know and understand what I like better than I do.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Well, in addition to Walkabout, The Last Valley, Mary Queen of Scots, and Diamonds Are Forever throw in Murphy's War and They Might Be Giants. AND that was the year of Lolita, My Love. How the hell did he do that?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

In truth Barry isn't a favorite of mine (and that's Barry of any era really, especially the jazzy stuff - just not my sound), but I do love this score. It is, as said elsewhere, dreamy, evocative and achingly nostalgic. I happen to love the film a great deal, too!

I don't know why this works so well for me while OUT OF AFRICA, BORN FREE, DANCES WITH WOLVES and other scores most regard as his masterpieces just sound so sedate and lacking in vitality or genuine harmonic/melodic inspiration to my ears. Very fine music all around, but stuff I virtually never feel compelled to return to frankly.

But Walkabout...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

I was absolutely floored when the Roundtable release was announced. I never thought I'd see a release of the original score in glorious stereo in my lifetime...such a wonderful surprise! I have appreciated the Nic Raine re-recording over the years, I think that release is pretty amazing, but the original still has a magical, haunting quality that the re-recording just doesn't quite capture.

And for those that haven't seen the film, see it! The music will surely resonate more when heard with the intoxicating visuals.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2018 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Col. Flagg   (Member)

WALKABOUT is a brilliant fever-dream of a film. The music and movie are, for me, inseparable – much in the same way that STAR WARS isn't STAR WARS without John Williams.

For decades, the only recording available was the rerecording, and I lapped it up. Yes, it wasn't for all occasions – it's melancholy is powerful and sometimes overriding. But it was great, and I'm thankful for it.

I have the new Roundtable, and being exactly what Barry wanted, it's a first class experience I intend to return to often. But so, in its own way, is the Raine. Raine always did a good job with Barry material, so this is less about the specifics of the music for me, and more about the feel of the album experience. Like the original STAR WARS albums versus the expansions, it'll depend on the mood.

 
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