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Perhaps I'm getting overly sentemental in my old age. However, back in 1982, Vangellis, Dave Grusin, Alex North, Randy Newman, and John Williams were all up for the Best Original Score Oscar. Listening to these 5 outstandingly memorable scores played here on piano by Liberace with orchestral backup provided by Bill Conti's musicians, these 5 scores bring back a time when, (dare I say it), films had memorable themes.
If you have five minutes, play this fantastic clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWgL4gA10uc
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Jul 9, 2018 - 2:35 PM
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afn
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I 100% agree!
This is of course now the rather tiresome discussion around here about the role and position of music in films today but you just can't deny it: 35 years ago music was indeed an independent artistic contribution, an extra dimension to a movie, which could (in many instances) easily stand on its own apart from the film and be enjoyed at home, time and time again.
Nowadays music is in 99% of all cases just another -ultimately- meaningless layer of sound effects, filling out the otherwise silent parts in blockbusters and providing something that some people just somehow think needs to be "there" on top of all the explosions, chases, fights and battles.
And to prove my point: If somebody says, "Nah, the music of 2018 is just as good as that of 1982, it's just different, you gotta move with the times!", I reply: Do you really, honestly think there will be a "newly restored and/or expanded edition" of ANY Hollywood score of the last 10 years in 2050?
Well.... there just won't. So let's continue expanding and remastering all those remaining Goldsmiths, remaining Horners (and maybe even the occasional Williams) and some other fine names of the 70s, 80s and 90s as long as there are collectors and demand for listenable film music apart from the movie with any lasting substance to it.
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Do you really, honestly think there will be a "newly restored and/or expanded edition" of ANY Hollywood score of the last 10 years in 2050?
Well.... there just won't. So let's continue expanding and remastering all those remaining Goldsmiths, remaining Horners (and maybe even the occasional Williams) and some other fine names of the 70s, 80s and 90s as long as there are collectors and demand for listenable film music apart from the movie with any lasting substance to it.
How to Train Your Dragon. At least. I'd argue Man of Steel. There might be a Giacchino or two. I certainly wouldn't mind Doyle's Thor.
Were good (or at least more melodic) scores more plentiful back then? Certainly. But you can't say that there's nothing good now.
I actually remember watching those Oscars. And I remember Dragonslayer (at least as played there) was a bit of a mess.
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Jul 9, 2018 - 5:33 PM
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JGouse0498
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While I do agree with the idea that current film music tends to be more generic and cookie cutter afterthoughts, I would argue that there are still some very powerful scores out there today.
AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR is the most recent example that comes to mind. I'm so grateful for the nearly two-hour long Digital Deluxe Edition because it has some of the most emotional, moving, ominous, fatalistic, etc. etc. cues I've heard in a long time--especially when I can pair the visuals from the movie. Of course, Alan Silvestri is a veteran, so perhaps that plays a part in it.
But I love the expanded editions of Giacchino's STAR TREK: INTO DARKNESS and STAR TREK: BEYOND. I even think his score for ROGUE ONE is among the best STAR WARS scores, and I truly hope it gets the expanded treatment.
And while it's technically not film music, Murray Gold's ten series run on DOCTOR WHO has some incredible music (although, admittedly, the extended releases Series 5-9 does have some dry spells in it).
But, sadly, unless studios and filmmakers start focusing more attention on music as a vital, almost-organic element of their movies--instead of the latest CGI "wizardry"--then I think we'll end up looking at the end of the 20th century as the end of a very special age in film music.
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I'll put the 69 oscars (for 68 films) up against any year:
The Lion in Winter
The Fox
Planet of the Apes
Shoes of the Fisherman
The Thomas Crown Affair
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Perhaps I'm getting overly sentemental in my old age. However, back in 1982, Vangellis, Dave Grusin, Alex North, Randy Newman, and John Williams were all up for the Best Original Score Oscar.
1981 boasted some outstanding scores, in addition to the nominees you mentioned, such as...
Heavy Metal
The Final Conflict
Heartbeeps
Body Heat
Lion of the Desert
Clash of the Titans
Quest for Fire
Night Crossing
But for me, 1982 was the single-greatest year for film music...
E.T.
Poltergeist
Conan The Barbarian
Missing
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
A Little Sex
Star Trek II
Blade Runner
The Thing
Tron
The Challenge
The Secret of NIMH
Das Boot
The Road Warrior
First Blood
Frances
Sophie's Choice
The Dark Crystal
Monsignor
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Liberace playing drangonslayer, now maybe I've seen everything in this life. Thanks for the clip!
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But for me, 1982 was the single-greatest year for film music...
E.T.
Poltergeist
Conan The Barbarian
Missing
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
A Little Sex
Star Trek II
Blade Runner
The Thing
Tron
The Challenge
The Secret of NIMH
Das Boot
The Road Warrior
First Blood
Frances
Sophie's Choice
The Dark Crystal
Monsignor
Yep, 1982 would be hard to beat, I'm with you on that. :-)
1982 is also the year that I started my collection of "Original Motion Picture" Score/Soundtracks (first on LP, later on CD). I own almost all of the scores you mention up there in one or more forms. :-)
I had been interested in film music before, but 1982 was a pivotal initiation year for me.
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Jul 10, 2018 - 8:50 AM
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townerbarry
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Perhaps I'm getting overly sentemental in my old age. However, back in 1982, Vangellis, Dave Grusin, Alex North, Randy Newman, and John Williams were all up for the Best Original Score Oscar. Listening to these 5 outstandingly memorable scores played here on piano by Liberace with orchestral backup provided by Bill Conti's musicians, these 5 scores bring back a time when, (dare I say it), films had memorable themes.
If you have five minutes, play this fantastic clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWgL4gA10uc
This is for the 1981 Films. Broadcast in 1982.
And U know..Vangellis Was not even nominated for Score for Chariots..over at the Grammys they saw through the gemmick.
It was the endless radio play of the one theme from Chariots of Fire...We all know those Oscar Voters have no clue when they vote for Scores. Went way over board to reward Ashman and Menken, and almost went unnoticed of Goldsmith. Went unnoticed of North.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/vangelis-chariots-of-fire-plagiarism.461199/
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