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 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Really don't like the off shoot film titles. I think they should've been called, "Star Wars: Rogue One" and Star Wars: Solo". I think they should've kept the crawl too. Further more putting the extended universe under " A Star Wars Story" banner is so 70's Disney. Sounds like a film series for preteens. Rant over.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Really don't like the off shoot film titles. I think they should've been called, "Star Wars: Rogue One" and Star Wars: Solo". I think they should've kept the crawl too. Further more putting the extended universe under " A Star Wars Story" banner is so 70's Disney. Sounds like a film series for preteens. Rant over.

I agree with you, solium; those 'Star Wars Story' titles feel lugubrious. My guess is they were the result of marketing/branding surveys. They don't exactly roll off the tongue.

I interviewed director Gareth Edwards for "Rogue," he was a smart and passionate chap, and he confided that while they were making the first 'Story' film, the title crawl was in and out of the edit. Obviously, they went for the latter, their reason: to differentiate the story as an adjunct to the Skywalker saga. Is it a Skywalker saga any more? I guess Episode IX will answer that question. But I noticed they switched it up again with titles on "Solo," using blue News Gothic intro cards à la 'galaxy far, far away...' so I guess anything goes for the spin-offs. Or, anything went.

I don't think anyone will mind, as the film has been discussed up and down for more than a year, so here's a bit that did not make it into my "Rogue One" story (my own excision, attempting to cut the story down to size), for Cinefex 151:

In a bold move for the saga, establishing a new precedent, the filmmakers chose not open with a scene-setting title crawl. “We tried a title crawl,” recalled Gareth Edwards. “It was in there for a while, it came out and went back in; but in the end, we decided that the visual language of the stand-alone films should be different from the sagas. We also did away with soft-edged wipe scene transitions -- I thought this might be the only time in my life when I could have wipes in a movie without it being cheesy – but we haven’t done so.”

The complete story here: http://www.cinefex.com/backissues/issue151.htm

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Interesting, I didn't know the crawl was in and out. I know Disney had some hits with the Star Wars franchise but I really think it's a mistake to dilute the brand by taking away the things that make the franchise unique. Solo and Rogue One join the ranks of "vanilla" sci fi films.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Col. Flagg   (Member)

We also did away with soft-edged wipe scene transitions -- I thought this might be the only time in my life when I could have wipes in a movie without it being cheesy – but we haven’t done so.”

I must say I really miss the wipes. Lucas' organization of the frame, his sense of pacing, his command of movement within the frame, etc. really made him a kind of modern graphics genius, and I think that's a big reason he seemed to work with ILM so well. The wipes that do exist in THE FORCE AWAKENS and THE LAST JEDI – very few – aren't always handled with enough assurance or editorial/graphic interplay, IMHO.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

We also did away with soft-edged wipe scene transitions -- I thought this might be the only time in my life when I could have wipes in a movie without it being cheesy – but we haven’t done so.”

I must say I really miss the wipes. Lucas' organization of the frame, his sense of pacing, his command of movement within the frame, etc. really made him a kind of modern graphics genius, and I think that's a big reason he seemed to work with ILM so well. The wipes that do exist in THE FORCE AWAKENS and THE LAST JEDI – very few – aren't always handled with enough assurance or editorial/graphic interplay, IMHO.


Totally agree. One of my favorite swipes was Luke and Ben picking up a damaged C3PO. They were lifting him vertically and the swipe went up as well. It was also a clever edit, since the actors were obviously lifting a dummy head and torso of C3PO.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

I must say I really miss the wipes....

Agreed, it was a lovely Republic serial touch, a wry bit of visual humor, artfully done. I think Gareth was going for more of a combat film feel, and his shooting style was very different from Lucas, Kershner and Marquand. But it does reveal the feel of a different hand on the wheel. Or, many hands, perhaps?

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • Totally agree. One of my favorite swipes was Luke and Ben picking up a damaged C3PO. They were lifting him vertically and the swipe went up as well. It was also a clever edit, since the actors were obviously lifting a dummy head and torso of C3PO.

    The same wipe was used when Leia and Chewie picked up Han in the Cloud City brig, which gets my mind racing about the parallels between these shots.

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