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 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


The new ruling states that internet retailers can be required to collect sales tax in states where they have no physical presence. This will be a boon for those states but a burden for retailers and consumers.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It was only a matter of time. To bad "we the people" will never see the money go back into serving our states needs. The boom will be for corporate welfare.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

The Supreme Court makes awful rulings of one sort or another from time-to-time. this was one such awful ruling.

Quite simply put, either one believes in freedom and liberty and the free market, or espouses it to make themselves feel better, and when talk meets practice, they cave.

This is codified tyranny under the guise of protectionism.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

The new ruling states that internet retailers can be required to collect sales tax in states where they have no physical presence. This will be a boon for those states but a burden for retailers and consumers.

OY! If you can withstand The Winters, move up here to Montana. No sales tax. The labels will still apply tax though, unless you buy the titles through Amazon.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   CK   (Member)

The new ruling states that internet retailers can be required to collect sales tax in states where they have no physical presence. This will be a boon for those states but a burden for retailers and consumers.

OY! If you can withstand The Winters, move up here to Montana. No sales tax. The labels will still apply tax though, unless you buy the titles through Amazon.


How's life up in MT these days, Dave? I had briefly ventured back to AB in March, but alas, Canada has enough geologists of its own.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

The new ruling states that internet retailers can be required to collect sales tax in states where they have no physical presence. This will be a boon for those states but a burden for retailers and consumers.

OY! If you can withstand The Winters, move up here to Montana. No sales tax. The labels will still apply tax though, unless you buy the titles through Amazon.


Oh MD, not sure I could take those winters but oh the beauty to behold. New England winters can be challenging but not like yours.

Well, my home state has a high sales tax but we don't have a local sales tax like some folks do. I am not sure if this ruling applies to local sales tax but if it does?

Add to that the burden of reporting that sales tax. We own a business and collect state sales tax from our clients. We must report the sales tax quarterly to the state. We have a vendor who handles our payroll and an accounting firm to handle our taxes.To cut cost, we took on the quarterly sales and use tax reporting. Big brother is there looking over your shoulder. We do have a few nonprofit clients and when you report less than the previous quarter, the state comes back and asks for proof of nonprofit status. Seriously?

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The Supreme Court makes awful rulings of one sort or another from time-to-time. this was one such awful ruling.

Quite simply put, either one believes in freedom and liberty and the free market, or espouses it to make themselves feel better, and when talk meets practice, they cave.

This is codified tyranny under the guise of protectionism.


I wouldn't go that far. Taxes are necessary for a civilized society. It's a matter of who it taxed, how much, and where the money goes.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

The necessity of taxes is not equal to the force of law upon the free market. These are two different things.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The necessity of taxes is not equal to the force of law upon the free market. These are two different things.

What does the free market have to do with taxes? The government isn't stopping you from starting a business and selling goods & services. Besides the corporations never eat the cost, it's passed onto the consumer.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

OY! If you can withstand The Winters, move up here to Montana. No sales tax. The labels will still apply tax though, unless you buy the titles through Amazon.


If MT has no state sales tax, which state's sales tax do the labels apply?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

OY! If you can withstand The Winters, move up here to Montana. No sales tax. The labels will still apply tax though, unless you buy the titles through Amazon.


If MT has no state sales tax, which state's sales tax do the labels apply?


Oops, I was wrong! I was picturing (in my head), a recent order I placed. What I THOUGHT I was seeing in the columns under my total was not sales tax, but shipping charges. Sorry. So, actually I guess I'm doing pretty well with no sales taxes on my orders. Now...how do I get free shipping if it's NOT through Amazon?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

The new ruling states that internet retailers can be required to collect sales tax in states where they have no physical presence. This will be a boon for those states but a burden for retailers and consumers.

OY! If you can withstand The Winters, move up here to Montana. No sales tax. The labels will still apply tax though, unless you buy the titles through Amazon.


How's life up in MT these days, Dave? I had briefly ventured back to AB in March, but alas, Canada has enough geologists of its own.


Regards, Christian! Summer here in Montana can be very hot, but at least there's no humidity like in New York. But we do get a lot of massive Forrest Fires too. I know you liked Alberta a lot, I really love that Provence and Calgary and Banff as well. No Calgary Stampede for me (again) this July, too expensive. Regards to your leader, Angela; hope she survives all the political (and otherwise), discontent that's occuring in Europe these days. Think you'll go back to Alberta again, only disguised as someone else rather than a Geologist?

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2018 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

With the exception of CDs, most of my buying is done outside the US.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2018 - 2:52 AM   
 By:   CK   (Member)

Regards to your leader, Angela; hope she survives all the political (and otherwise), discontent that's occuring in Europe these days.

Oooooophhh...since she is the main reason for the majority of the discontent, I hope she'll be six feet under, politically or otherwise, before summer's end. Worst chancellorette in the history of the Federal Republic (i. e., since 1949).

Won't be back to Canada, in all likelihood. I can't see any "workable" venue for me to take as regards work permits and such.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2018 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)



Burden? To keep track of 50 state tax rates? That's piffling work for a computer algorithm, isn't it??

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2018 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Burden? To keep track of 50 state tax rates? That's piffling work for a computer algorithm, isn't it??


It takes a lot of programming, along with regular updates. Forty-five states and the District of Columbia collect statewide sales taxes. Local sales taxes are collected in 38 states. I haven't seen a count as to how many local rates there are. In Colorado alone, there are at least 10. The Colorado state sales tax rate is currently 2.9%. Depending on local municipalities, the total tax rate can be as high as 11.2%.

Colorado is a “home rule” state. Local-level tax rates in the state of Colorado are quite complex compared to local-level tax rates in other states. Colorado sales tax can be levied at the city/county/school/transportation and SPD (special purpose district) levels.

The combined sales tax rate for Greenfield, WI is 5.6%. This is the total of state, county and city sales tax rates. The Wisconsin state sales tax rate is currently 5%. The Milwaukee County sales tax rate is 0.5%. Greenfield sales tax rate is 0.1%.

BOTTOM LINE, if you are a brick and mortar store, you only have to deal with the one rate where you are, which may change at most once a year. If you are someone who sells nationwide over the internet, you may conceivably have to deal with thousands of local rates (depending upon where your customers are), process hundreds of changes per year, file reports in up to 45 states, and remit monies to same. Or pay someone big bucks to provide a program or system to do it all for you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2018 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Justin, I think we're going to see a LOT more awful rulings from SCOTUS.

 
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