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 Posted:   Jun 27, 2018 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Poring over those links, the unexpected pre-Detroit week-before encounter with Maurice Jarre takes on greater meaning now than at the time. Not to discount the contemperaneous incredible coincidence and all; it's ridiculous! All the anticipation, the excitement of seeing & hearing Goldsmith at my first live film music concert only to have the composer of the Numero Uno hit on my FSM Desert Island Top Ten wave his baton ten minutes away. Ridiculous. Otherworldly. Providence.

It...was...written.

Yes, it's bigger now because of the posthumous factor. Now there's only one more left and--hold on. Wheels are turning. Turning as in spin as in spin-off.

Later. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2020 - 5:32 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey y’all, it was 20 years ago today, June 2, that I flew into Detroit, caught up with a gang of five at the Marriott, and then that Friday night we hit Woodward Ave. in search of The Film Music Man and bruddah did we find him. What a weekend. The FSMessageboard was undergoing a re-tooling that seemed to take forever so we had been inhabiting the other side of the universe at MovieMusic.com and reported the goings on over there.

20 years. Some 4 months later we were finally back in business at FSM. A year after that came 9/11. Then three years later we lost The Film Music Man. Four years on and lo, a global recession. And right now we got this pandemic, see, and...

...let's just say our little celebration of film music in cyberspace continues to mark the time on land.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2020 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Wow. That concert is a very special memory from a very difficult time in my life.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2020 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Yeah Mike, how tides turn and all. Will keep what you just said in mind. Stay tuned.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2020 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   solarwnz   (Member)

I was there!!! Sadly I decided to turn the flash off on my disposable camera as not to offend Mr. Goldsmith. And thus my pictures were drastically underexposed. My heart still breaks when I think about those ruined pics. I even took one of Wedge and Goldsmith but none of them came out.

However, meeting Jerry, having him sign my Powder CD and hearing him say, "Ohhhh! This is one of my favorites!", and then meeting some of you - who I only knew from your message board names - was one of the great thrills of my life! A totally awesome memory. Can't believe it's been 20 years. Hope you are all doing well and staying safe.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2020 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Anyway, last September some of y'all may recall a "cyberplay" written by mi amigo W. Knight. Today I made the pilgrimage to Canada and the play suddenly takes on the aspect of prophecy fulfilled. I will leave it at that.

It was before cell phones had come into their own; before Facebook; long before Skype and FaceTime; way before Zoom. The Net was fairly young as was the FSMessageboard. People were nothing more than taps on a keyboard. But these were real live film music entities/ whatever and we were no longer on our own. We could share our passion amongst others of like mind.

Guy McKone.

Already an FSLegend, a pillar of the community. Celebrator pars excellence. Some kind of Canuck genius who knew everything there was to know about film music. This cyber-entity and I were the same age and had connected in a big way. That's all I knew about him.

And then one day in late summer 1999 the founder of FSM reported he was lost. Kaput. Nada pues nada. Dead.

It wasn't fair. I had to know more about this unmet film music friend.
I...had...to...know.

Canada. June 3. The morning after first contact with Jerry Goldsmith.

"After the triumph of meeting Goldsmith Friday night post-concert, I left the Day’s Inn/Livonia in my rented Dodge Intrepid at approximately 10:20am Saturday. For reasons unknown I had decided to take the northerly route by first heading east through Detroit and making my way up to the border crossing around Port Huron. From there I would take Route 402 east to 79 north and then pick up 7 and head north by northeast straight on through to Stratford, Ontario."

Canada. June 3. The border has been crossed.

"I didn’t take any chances after Magic. Out went the cassettes and on went a French-Canadian radio station. That played nothing but Spanish Salsa. Go figure. Anyway, I was in my Mamacita’s ethnic glory as I traveled the countryside past farmland, cows, silos and hilly pastures on a beautiful picture-postcard mid-afternoon in early June.

And at the virtual 3-hour-point from Livonia I finally entered the outskirts of Stratford."

***

I then told him that I had traveled to Canada for the day and on the way back I enjoyed the countryside to the tune of his soundtracks to Hoosiers and Matinee, especially his music for the latter that underscored the scene when the John Goodman character explains the magic of making movies to the young teenage boy.

"You created a wonderful melancholic mood." He smiled and said thank you.


What happened between the arrival in Canada that afternoon and second contact with Jerry Goldsmith later that evening was all rather amazing. The search for The Film Music Man had ended. The search for The Film Music Fan had commenced.
smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2020 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

"I mean you don’t make a connection of the 'extraordinary' kind I had in mind, and then when Mr. Death rudely plays his card from of out nowhere just snap your fingers and say oh-what-a-shame-well-heigh-ho-everyone and pretend that connections over the air can’t affect you like those in “real” life and that the stench of losing a soul brother—'cyber-' or otherwise—doesn’t count for nothing. I mean Robert Young dies and the next day Guy creates a tribute post and holy crap in the middle of nowhere he mentions the title of the exact same Father Knows Best episode that you thought of upon hearing the news, an episode that until his post you had never heard anyone else in the whole freakin’ world ever talk about and then read his reminiscences and know that they’re your reminiscences and it becomes a thread of two and only two participants…and the time he brings up Bert Kaempfert who is only somewhere slightly to the left of Lawrence Welk in old-fogy-this-is-the sort-of-music-my-parents-listened-to-ugh-land and then you casually respond with the Kaempfert title that graced a favorite kiddy show in your day and then he responds there were 2 versions and the one recorded in Europe is the better and then you respond with the title of the CD you’ve been listening to and then he responds that you’ve got the right one and then you casually respond that your favorite part is the 4th stanza when the melody’s carried by high-pitched strings and it swings and then he responds with a big fat YES! and yet again it has become a thread of two and only two…and what are you supposed to say when you’ve both gone nuts over Hugo Montenegro’s music for I Dream of Jeannie and you mention how you can 'hear' the 'Dr. Bellows Theme' as you type and he comes back with the sound of the darn thing in phonetics—and not just any phonetics but perfect phonetics—and now do you get the idea of a connection that comes from bringing up the most gosh-darndest obscure no-one-else-in-the-world stuff that after so many one-to-one threads you just sit there and say 'What the hell is this, were we separated at birth or something?'"

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2020 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Happy anniversary to us! I was JUST listening to Hollow Man and here’s a thread about the Detroit days!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2020 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Yup, you were the one who asked him how the score was coming along! cool

However, meeting Jerry, having him sign my Powder CD and hearing him say, "Ohhhh! This is one of my favorites!", and then meeting some of you - who I only knew from your message board names - was one of the great thrills of my life! A totally awesome memory. Can't believe it's been 20 years. Hope you are all doing well and staying safe.

The feeling is mutual. Cheers, solarwnz.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2020 - 8:05 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

“Do you know an old character actor named John McGiver?”
“I think so.”
“He was in a zillion TV shows in the 60s, did a few movies. He was the man behind the counter at Tiffany’s in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.”
“Oh, yeah.”
“Well, that was how I always wanted to view this Guy McKone person at the keyboard.” 
“Really.”
“Yeah. Just like John McGiver, all business and dignity when he stated that there was something to be said for the comfort and stability knowing that they still include a prize in a box of Cracker Jack.”

***
"So much for John McGiver when I first discovered that Guy and I were around the same age. And I needed no further convincer after the pictures [brother-in-law] Steve now handed me. 'Wow, he was a pretty big guy. Hmm. Husky, too. And from this angle his face is something of a cross between Harold Ramis’s and the liberal guy’s on Firing Line…Michael Kingsley? So this is the face behind the posts. Eh, whatever.'"

***
”Damn, I can't stop grinning. This is clearly a day meant for grinning. But it is a major road race, too; will I get back in time for the Saturday night concert? I have to get back. I have to talk to Jerry Goldsmith again. And the guys, too, whoever is still around."

I would make it back to Detroit, USA and the concert just in time.  No change of clothes or anything and I hadn't eaten a thing since 11am but I was juiced.  Just wish I had spoken to Mr. G a little longer about that scene in Matinee.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2020 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

"The FSMessageboard has its share of snakes, the most notorious of which goes under the handle, DANIEL2. Its verbiage prodigious and posting prolific, the serpentine entity leaves an audacious trail of mean-spirited cut-and-paste advocacies, the sum of which must lead Satan himself to genuflect in envy and admiration.

Another, 'Latham Conger III,' pretty much made its debut not long into the messageboard’s original incarnation in 1998. Known primarily for yanking many an amateur’s chain and figurative license to criticize film and/or its music, Latham Conger III was more Chatsworth Osborne Jr. than poisoned-pen poseur. In other words, a snooty patronizing cobra whose hiss proved much worse than its spit. Still, and like DANIEL2, it tended to be rather manipulative, condescending, and ultimately, cruel.

And then there was 'Pluto,' more of the species of skunk, and who, according to one longtime contributor, 'seemed to make it his life's purpose to prove that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were flaming homosexuals.' And who was summarily banned for starting a thread entitled, 'Jerry Goldsmith is Dead.'”

June 4. Sunday afternoon. Final performance.

I sneaked through the "Wedge" exit and acted like I belonged backstage, only to go outside & find myself behind him as he had already exited for a smoke and was signing autographs. When it was my turn...well, he knew the routine and as we shook hands I thanked him for the entire weekend and asked if he wouldn't mind accepting something as a token of my extreme appreciation. It was a sheaf of papers rolled up like a diploma, a blue band holding it in place...He accepted it...I watched him climb into the car with the sheaf in his hand.

Epilogue

"Why shouldn't I have been overwhelmed. I had flown from Tampa to Detroit and caught up with Mark, Shaun and John, who until a couple days earlier had been just...a bunch of taps on a keyboard. No snakes and skunks, they, but as decent and respectable in real life as their 'Senator Hatfield,' 'Shaun Rutherford,' and 'Wedge' personae on the computer monitor. And I had hit it off with the elusive Jerry Goldsmith--who most certainly is not dead--introducing myself as one bearing greetings from the equally legendary Maurice Jarre, whom I had met after a concert the weekend previous in Clearwater. And Jerry Goldsmith had come out in a surprisingly gregarious way.

And I had caught up with Guy McKone of Stratford, Ontario, my cyber-soul brother in film music who most certainly is dead and before his time. And at that very moment when Jerry G got in the car and pulled away, I knew for a certainty that I and my friends from cyberspace had truly gone all the way this weekend. So I turned to and grinned at my buddy Guy Mariner Tucker a/k/a H Rocco, and then we walked away...and returned to cyberspace. For good."

Editor's Note:
Jerry Goldsmith passed away July, 2004. He was 75 years old.
Guy Mariner "H Rocco" Tucker passed away November, 2006. He was 39 years old. It was alleged that he was also DANIEL2.
Maurice Jarre passed away March, 2009. He was 84 years old.

 
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