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 Posted:   May 15, 2018 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

Link: https://hometheaterreview.com/vinyls-revival-is-already-fading/

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2018 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Best news I've heard for a long time!

It was bound to be a short lived fad.

 
 Posted:   May 16, 2018 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

From what I read in the article record player sales are down. Once you own a piece of hardware you don't have buy it again for many years. Everyone who was going to buy a record player purchased one. I don't think vinyl sales are down. I still think its a fad though.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2018 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

It's interesting that the article has to mention audiophile grade turntables alongside the Target crap models. For many audiophiles, LPs have never gone away. They've been in steady, though limited, production since the format was effectively beaten by CDs in the late '80s/early '90s. The hipster rebirth is entirely different. You won't see them shelling out tens of thousands of dollars for audio equipment, or even a single component like the ELP laser turntable, nor do they understand why those $100 turntables are death for records.

Hopefully the mainstream fad ends and we score fans start to see an emphasis on CDs once again, where it belongs. People complain about double dipping on a new, improved CD release, but have no issue buying an LP set of the same content for double the price. It's a bit absurd.

And let's not even get started on Stylotone.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2018 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Interesting that the article mentioned Crosley. Crosley is junk. They were just one of several companies that made those reproductions of old table radios with the cheaply made cassette players on the side back in the late 80's. I've seen Crosley turntables stacked up in stores like f.y.e. and as usual the company still tries to make them look retro. At the cheap price they are likely selling well to younger folks during the vinyl revival. They'll love it until it eventually stops working or the needles ruin the records. Which with Crosley products is sooner rather than later.

 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2018 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The vinyl revival has allowed me to pick up numerous dirt-cheap CDs in recent years.

Those of you who hate vinyl and love CDs should be praying that the vinyl revival lasts, not the other way around.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2018 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   Kylo Ren   (Member)

Those of you who hate vinyl and love CDs should be praying that the vinyl revival lasts, not the other way around.

"I'm happy to see the death of both vinyl and CDs" I hate them equally, there I said it.

Streaming services all the way baby! wink

I would truly be "bored" nowadays without Spotify. It's absolutely worth the money and a plug is worth it everytime.

"Out with the old, in with the new."

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2018 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

People complain about double dipping on a new, improved CD release, but have no issue buying an LP set of the same content for double the price. It's a bit absurd.

This, truly, is ridiculous to me. It'd be like shelling out fifty bucks for a movie on a limited, "retro" VHS tape. Technology has improved, so why anyone would deliberately go backwards in the way they consume media is baffling.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2018 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

The article throws around a lot of numbers. The main takeaways are that sales for turntables were roughly flat in 2017 compared with 2016, and sales of LPs were up by 9 percent. Another way of saying this is that people bought nearly the same number of turntables and more records. And some sales of high end players could be newbies upgrading cheap players.

So the headline is not accurate. Fading would be a decline, not flattish sales of hardware and continued growth in record sales. For example, early indications are that vinyl sales were way up again on record store day last month.

It will take another three to five years to see where the trend is going.

- signed a guy who happily gave up vinyl in 1990 but remains interested in retail music consumption.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I'm about to embark on a project to convert many of my LPs (I have more than 1,000) to digital files. I'm leaning toward purchasing an Audio Technica turntable with a USB output. I would like to receive some advice concerning the software for handling the digital files. Audacity seems to be a good one. Are there others that may be superior?

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I'm about to embark on a project to convert many of my LPs (I have more than 1,000) to digital files. I'm leaning toward purchasing an Audio Technica turntable with a USB output. I would like to receive some advice concerning the software for handling the digital files. Audacity seems to be a good one. Are there others that may be superior?


For the LPs where sound quality is most important to you, it might be worth checking iTunes or an official CD release.

I think Audacity is the app a guy at work mentioned when he told me he does his own LP conversions. He can erase pops and whatnot from the waveform, and clean it up. But I have to imagine it's a time-consuming project.

Also, your diamond stylus will last longer if you clean the vinyl before recording it.

http://soundhub.audio/faq-how-long-will-a-phonograph-stylus-last/

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   EricDraven   (Member)

"Technology has improved, so why anyone would deliberately go backwards in the way they consume media is baffling".

I agree 100%. What obsolete media is next......wax cylinders? This kind of nonsense is hyped by the lamestream media.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

"Technology has improved, so why anyone would deliberately go backwards in the way they consume media is baffling".

I agree 100%. What obsolete media is next......wax cylinders? This kind of nonsense is hyped by the lamestream media.



It makes about as much sense as a contemporary farmer seeding his field by hand when he has the machinery sitting right there next to the house.
As some point nostalgia simply must yield to superior improvement.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I'm about to embark on a project to convert many of my LPs (I have more than 1,000) to digital files. I'm leaning toward purchasing an Audio Technica turntable with a USB output. I would like to receive some advice concerning the software for handling the digital files. Audacity seems to be a good one. Are there others that may be superior?


For the LPs where sound quality is most important to you, it might be worth checking iTunes or an official CD release.

I think Audacity is the app a guy at work mentioned when he told me he does his own LP conversions. He can erase pops and whatnot from the waveform, and clean it up. But I have to imagine it's a time-consuming project.

Also, your diamond stylus will last longer if you clean the vinyl before recording it.

http://soundhub.audio/faq-how-long-will-a-phonograph-stylus-last/


Audacity is pretty good, especially considering it's free. I've used it for many years now and I like it. There are plug-ins you can download and add for additional effects.
Caveat Emptor! Audacity will not remove every click, pop and scratch. Plus, it is a balancing act to remove/reduce surface noise without reducing high frequencies as well. If an album has only a very few clicks/pops, etc., it will do quite well.
And you are correct, it is time-consuming and labor intensive. If you have a really old album that hasn't been released on CD, it can be worth the time investment.
I've also tried other professional tools, usually on a free trial basis as I'm a cheapskate, and they definitely are an improvement over Audacity.
Just be sure to go in with realistic expectations.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

ZapBrannigan and jackfu,

Many thanks for your advice!

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2018 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

"Technology has improved, so why anyone would deliberately go backwards in the way they consume media is baffling".

I agree 100%. What obsolete media is next......wax cylinders? This kind of nonsense is hyped by the lamestream media.



It makes about as much sense as a contemporary farmer seeding his field by hand when he has the machinery sitting right there next to the house.
As some point nostalgia simply must yield to superior improvement.


Resistance is futile....

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2018 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Niiiiice.

But I'm pretty sure Spocko has a USB port in the back of his neck.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2018 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

The vinyl revival has allowed me to pick up numerous dirt-cheap CDs in recent years.

Those of you who hate vinyl and love CDs should be praying that the vinyl revival lasts, not the other way around.


 
 Posted:   May 24, 2018 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

"Technology has improved, so why anyone would deliberately go backwards in the way they consume media is baffling".

I agree 100%. What obsolete media is next......wax cylinders? This kind of nonsense is hyped by the lamestream media.


When I purchased a DVD recorder I transferred some sVHS recordings to DVDr ... the quality was always questionnable and the recordings played better on the sVHS player.

Many of our music recordings are analogue which means that for CD / streaming playback that analogue recording has had to be converted to digital ... and then converted back to analogue for listening with the conversions, of course, being performed on different equipment. I'm sure we all have examples of CDs where the sound is too harsh, too muffled etc. A good DAC will help convert this digitised sound back to something listenable but you can't expect a good DAC on a budget CD transport.

I gave up vinyl a decade or so ago as I found CDs far more user-friendly but I accept fully that those who are willing to invest time and a lot of money in a good hi-fi set-up will benefit from this aged playback idea. Similarly, I accept fully that the cheap record players which have been marketed these last few years will provide little more than a few minutes of fun ... and a lot of rough noise and damaged vinyl.

Mitch

 
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