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Yeah...it's tough, but I'm leaning toward the LLL because it most probably does have the best sound. I imagine the FSM presentation might be better though (you know, the whole package).
The LLL does have slightly better sound (the FSM was one of their later Fox releases) and better art design by Jim Titus. BUT I will never part with my FSM version because of the better, more detailed liner notes.
Only buy the FSM 100 Rifles if you care about those notes, because I think LLL is on the verge of reissuing it, probably with much better sound (I find the FSM sound fairly disappointing for the era, to be honest).
Looking at Yavar's list, it's easier for me to mention the ones I like slightly less, rather than my favourite(s). Even then, I haven't "got" them all on CD, and in some cases I'm unfamiliar with the music due to maybe only having heard it once, and in the film itself.
But of the ones I know well, they all have something special, even the on-first-listen underwhelming ones.
All of this!
BAD GIRLS surprised me in that it came at a point in Goldsmith's career when I'd already been off him for years, but after the sleep-inducing Goldsmith-lite opening track, when it kicks in, it kicks you in the bollox like the best of them.
And this! The dark action music in it is fantastic, totally in line with his best 70s westerns.
Yavar
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Yeah...it's tough, but I'm leaning toward the LLL because it most probably does have the best sound. I imagine the FSM presentation might be better though (you know, the whole package).
The LLL does have slightly better sound (the FSM was one of their later Fox releases) and better art design by Jim Titus. BUT I will never part with my FSM version because of the better, more detailed liner notes.
Only buy the FSM 100 Rifles if you care about those notes, because I think LLL is on the verge of reissuing it, probably with much better sound (I find the FSM sound fairly disappointing for the era, to be honest).
Looking at Yavar's list, it's easier for me to mention the ones I like slightly less, rather than my favourite(s). Even then, I haven't "got" them all on CD, and in some cases I'm unfamiliar with the music due to maybe only having heard it once, and in the film itself.
But of the ones I know well, they all have something special, even the on-first-listen underwhelming ones.
All of this!
BAD GIRLS surprised me in that it came at a point in Goldsmith's career when I'd already been off him for years, but after the sleep-inducing Goldsmith-lite opening track, when it kicks in, it kicks you in the bollox like the best of them.
And this! The dark action music in it is fantastic, totally in line with his best 70s westerns.
Yavar
Bad Girls becomes more and more interesting.
REALLY GLAD you mentioned that about Rifles.
Affirmed about the LLL Take the High Road. However, I do love a lot of what FSM does packaging wise. And of course there are things I'd NEVER part with (like the Ben Hur Complete Collection, for starters).
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For me FSM is the gold standard of film music labels, content wise. They have had a profound influence on all other labels and how they do things. It's only a handful their earliest (usually Fox) releases from almost two decades ago which have been bettered in recent years, and that's mainly because of improved technology and the fact that graphic artist Jim Titus is a master.
Yavar
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For me FSM is the gold standard of film music labels, content wise. They have had a profound influence on all other labels and how they do things. It's only a handful their earliest (usually Fox) releases from almost two decades ago which have been bettered in recent years, and that's mainly because of improved technology and the fact that graphic artist Jim Titus is a master.
Yavar
FSM is terrific. Heck, I still have a ton of stuff to buy from them. The stuff I do have is very precious to me.
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I uh...updated...my earlier post to list ALL of Jerry's western scores that I know of. It's a pretty epic list now; I probably should have started a new thread for it but there are already three Goldsmith Western threads on the main forum page at the moment. If anyone thinks of a Goldsmith western I'm missing (pretty obscure radio or TV, I imagine) please let me know!
Yavar
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I grew up in the sixties, and before I discovered Shostakovich and Stravinsky, Zappa and Beefheart, Miles and Monk, Jobim and Piazzolla, Partch and Cage, all I listened to were my growing collection of soundtrack lps. I had everything by Barry, Goldsmith, Mancini, Schifrin, and a smattering of all the rest. My point is that when my collection was 10, then 15, then 20 albums, and so on, they all got regular airplay and I knew every note of all of those 40-minute albums (okay, 30-minute albums for Project 3 and Dot), so they were all my favorites. Since we're talking about Goldsmith's westerns here, I'll say this: Even when I was old enough to realize that The Blue Max, The Sand Pebbles, Patton, and A Patch of Blue were great scores, I still treasured Justine, Sebastian, The Last Run, In Like Flint, and, yes, Bandolero, The Hour of the Gun, Stagecoach, and The Wild Rovers. I agree, now, that Lonely Are the Brave is the best, but when I was growing up it was Bandolero and Hour of the Gun (I agree completely with the previous poster about the main title of Hour of the Gun being special) Also, the "Bronco Busting" cue from Wild Rovers is one of my favorite Goldsmith cues.
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My favorite complete scores are the RIOs: CONCHOS & LOBO!
The themes from BANDOLERO!, 100 RIFLES, and TAKE A HARD RIDE are also top drawer Goldsmith, along with the bronco music from WILD ROVERS.
SCOTT
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The FOX BOX had a lot to do with sparking MY interest in his westerns. BAD GIRLS, STAGEgcoach, 100 RIFLES, RIO CONCHOS ....
I am probably not alone.
Brm
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