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 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Forgive if this topic exists in any other form here, I would simply love to know!

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I've been getting more and more curious about Take a Hard Ride and its' electronics, for instance.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Forgive if this topic exists in any other form here, I would simply love to know!

Search and ye shall find....

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Breakheart Pass.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Breakheart Pass.

That's one heck of a strong theme, haven't had time to check out the rest.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   simon377   (Member)

Take a Hard Ride. The main theme is full of so much energy and the variations that he weaves out of it are superb. Great action writing too, as one should expect from Jerry.
I do not have Breakheart Pass frown so second for me is Rio Conchos. The Intrada recording is wonderful and also has the sublime "The Artist Who Did Not Want to Paint" prologue to The Agony and the Ecstacy.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I ain't heard them all, and I certainly don't even know their names.

Anybody got the list?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Not certain which overall score would be the favorite.

But the track "The Hanging" from "Bad Girls" is certainly at the top, as far as individual tracks go.

If you have not listened to this track, FIND IT THIS INSTANT and have a listen.

Would particularly be interested in anyone's opinion that is contrary to my own.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 8:08 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Certainly not as "robust" or "bombastic" as some of his other scores, but my favorite is LONELY ARE THE BRAVE. I waited a long time for that to appear on CD and thanks to the old Varese it finally did.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Certainly not as "robust" or "bombastic" as some of his other scores, but my favorite is LONELY ARE THE BRAVE. I waited a long time for that to appear on CD and thanks to the old Varese it finally did.

That's my favorite too cody, as well as possibly my favorite film that Goldsmith ever scored (Seconds gives it some good competition though, I must admit).

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Certainly not as "robust" or "bombastic" as some of his other scores, but my favorite is LONELY ARE THE BRAVE. I waited a long time for that to appear on CD and thanks to the old Varese it finally did.

That's my favorite too cody, as well as possibly my favorite film that Goldsmith ever scored (Seconds gives it some good competition though, I must admit).

Yavar


We're certainly in step today, Yavar.smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

Rio Conchos and Breakheart Pass are the most compelling scores for me, but I'd add Take a Hard Ride to the mix with that main theme. All 3 have earworm, singable themes that are so adventurous and robust.

Bad Girls has a similar effect with its theme, but the score overall doesn't reach the same heights for me.

I've yet to seek out another western of his. What should I go for next?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


Another vote for LONELY ARE THE BRAVE!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Another vote for LONELY ARE THE BRAVE!

When Kirk Douglas on his horse waits and waits for the right time to make his mad dash for freedom. The music builds nervously and then explodes with melody. I will never forget how I was taken by this film and its score when I first saw it in 1962. Stayed for a second showing.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   tvogt1   (Member)

Bad Girls

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   Kylo Ren   (Member)

Bad Girls

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I ain't heard them all, and I certainly don't even know their names.
Anybody got the list?


Here are the ones I am aware of:

Radio:

1958 - FRONTIER GENTLEMAN (four episodes, but really three original scores)
S1E0 "Remittance Man" (original pilot episode, with a different cast -- credited as "Jerrald")
S1E1 "The Shelton Brothers" (redone pilot with final cast; music re-used from original pilot with only slight changes)
S1E2 "Charlie Meeker" (the best and most extensive score he wrote for the series, almost like a TV score)
S1E3 "The Honkey Tonkers" (his final episode for the series is unfortunately dominated by source music, with only a few instances of the score being allowed to shine)

Anyone know of other Goldsmith radio westerns, even single episodes of anthology series? I'm guessing I should probably look into the episodes of "Romance" titled "The Indian" and "The Law and Miss Deborah" for starters...there's some cool Hispanic stuff in "The Guitar" from that series but I really wouldn't classify it as a western.

Television:

1959 - BLACK SADDLE (main theme only; extended version newly recorded for Dick Powell Presents LP...there is also at least one pop cover, by The Revelairs)

1960 - HAVE GUN – WILL TRAVEL (two episodes; the second score is FANTASTIC and belongs among his best western scores)
S4E1 "The Fatalist"
S4E3 "A Head of Hair"

1960, 1961, & 1966 - GUNSMOKE (six episodes total, with the last composed many years later)
S5E22 "Doc Judge" (I don't remember this one being terribly interesting, though recognizably Goldsmith)
S6E2 "The Blacksmith" (this score made more of an impression, for an episode dealing with bigotry)
S6E13 "The Wake" (got an amazing revelation about this score to reveal soon, perhaps on The Goldsmith Odyssey)
S6E20 "Love Thy Neighbor" (an incredible dark episode, perhaps even better than Goldsmith's score)
S6E26 "Old Faces" (got an amazing revelation about this score to reveal soon, perhaps on The Goldsmith Odyssey)
S12E8 "The Whispering Tree" (probably his best score for the series)

1961 - THE TWILIGHT ZONE (he scored seven episodes but only one of them was a western)
S2E12 "Dust"

1961 - RAWHIDE (one episode)
S3E22 "Incident in the Middle of Nowhere" (really good score with some variety to it)

1961 & 1962 - WAGON TRAIN (two episodes)
S4E37 "The Ah Chong Story" (episode comes across as pretty racist today, but Goldsmith's Asian-tinged music is very good)
S6E1 "The Wagon Train Mutiny (have yet to see this one but it's much higher rated)

1964 - DESTRY (three episodes, which my eyes and ears can confirm though not mentioned on IMDb...good stuff!)
S1E2 "Destry Had a Little Lamb"
S1E3 "Law and Order Day"
S1E4 "Stormy Is a Lady"

1965 - THE LONER (two episodes...and aside from the TZ ep, the only Goldsmith TV western to actually be released on CD)
S1E1 "An Echo of Bugles"
S1E5 "One of the Wounded"

1966 - THE LEGEND OF JESSE JAMES (one episode -- sadly I haven't been able to find it anywhere)
S1E26 "Things Just Don't Happen"

1970 - PRUDENCE AND THE CHIEF (unsold pilot for a western comedy take on Anna and the King)
1991 - BROTHERHOOD OF THE GUN (aka HOLLISTER) (several variations of main theme only; body of score for this other unsold western pilot was written by his son Joel)

I'm not sure whether people would consider his work on THE WALTONS (1971-1972) to be in the western genre or merely "Americana" -- it does bear traits in common with some of his western scores though. He scored the pilot telefilm and I think six or seven episodes, the most he did for any show, ever, if I'm not mistaken.

Feature films:

1957 - BLACK PATCH
1959 - FACE OF A FUGITIVE
1960 - FLAMING STAR (2:14 finale cue "Pacer's Farewell" only; the rest by other composers)
1962 - LONELY ARE THE BRAVE
1964 - RIO CONCHOS
1966 - STAGECOACH
1967 - HOUR OF THE GUN
1968 - BANDOLERO!
1969 - 100 RIFLES
1970 - THE BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE
1970 - RIO LOBO
1971 - WILD ROVERS
1973 - THE RED PONY
1973 - ONE LITTLE INDIAN
1975 - TAKE A HARD RIDE
1975 - BREAKHEART PASS
1976 - THE LAST HARD MEN (no original Goldsmith but reused cues from other film scores)
1981 - OUTLAND (a partial High Noon remake -- in spaaaace! -- but Goldsmith's actual music is more sci-fi than western feeling)
1987 - EXTREME PREJUDICE (another one where the film is perhaps more western-flavored than the score; since it's a "modern" western this one is very synth heavy, unfortunately for me...)
1994 - BAD GIRLS

"Honorary Western" Scores:
1967 - THE FLIM-FLAM Man (lots of harmonica, accordion, guitar, and banjo makes this Americana score come across like one of his lighter-hearted western scores)
1975 - BREAKOUT (fantastic dark Hispanic brass and guitar make this one of the best non-western western scores)
1976 - HIGH VELOCITY (with Breakout's awesome dark Hispanic brass and guitar but now with CIMBALOM make this one of my favorite overlooked Goldsmith scores)
1976 - THE TRAVELING EXECUTIONER (set in the deep south in 1918; there are some westerny feeling parts though I wouldn't say it's in the genre overall)
1980 - CABOBLANCO (the last in the unofficial trilogy of Hispanic-flavored non-western scores begun with Breakout and High Velocity)
1983 - UNDER FIRE (this one is fairly synth-heavy, though more melodic than Extreme Prejudice...it squeaks into this list because of the cool Hispanic flavor, particularly the prominent acoustic guitar in the action music)

Isolated Western Cues for Joe Dante Comedies:
1987 - INNERSPACE (all cues featuring the Morricone-influenced "The Cowboy" theme for the Robert Picardo character)
1989 - THE 'BURBS (there's an awesome western theme that I think first appears in "Let's Go" -- epic and complete with musical gunshots!)
2003 - LOONEY TUNES: BACK IN ACTION (this score is full of fantastic invention and musical in-jokes, but the highlight of the whole work is undoubtedly the two western action cues for Yosemite Sam, "The Bad Guys" and "Car Trouble")

And finally, his ride score to the Disney California Adventure ride SOARIN' OVER CALIFORNIA has a brief westerny section. Also, in the concert arrangement performed by the LSO, Jerry's main theme to BARNABY JONES comes across as music for the most epic western ever...very different from the funky original.

Here's a thread I made about all of Goldsmith's "western" music for non-westerns, though it didn't go far:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=94552&forumID=1&archive=0

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Cody, I too love that piece your refer to. I think it is in the first minute of this youtube.


 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2018 - 11:50 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Cody, I too love that piece your refer to. I think it is in the first minute of this youtube.


Joan,you "nailed" it perfectly. Thanks for your post.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2018 - 12:31 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

RIO CONCHOS then LONELY ARE THE BRAVE.

 
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