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TLD is my favorite Bond score and my favorite Bond movie. That said, as much as I love it, others need expansion much, much more than it. Good lord, License To Kill above all, if possible. (I know the Clapton song is all but lost / impossible now but I've long wondered how much of the score was dropped/edited/shuffled around in the film.)
I endorse this.
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Mar 19, 2018 - 8:47 AM
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TLD is my favorite Bond score and my favorite Bond movie. That said, as much as I love it, others need expansion much, much more than it. Good lord, License To Kill above all, if possible. (I know the Clapton song is all but lost / impossible now but I've long wondered how much of the score was dropped/edited/shuffled around in the film.)
It seems to be "impossible" rather than lost according to this board: http://debrief.commanderbond.net/topic/11055-the-james-bond-theme-by-michael-kamen-and-eric-clapton/
According to a poster "I actually have been trying to get the song released since 2000. I contacted Clapton's "people" late last year and I can pretty much guarantee it won't be released anytime soon. Clapton doesn't want it heard for one reason or another.". That was 15 years ago.
Someone also contacted Vic Flick and he doesn't have a copy. Guess it is all down to Clapton.
I was wondering if Lukas, could chime in on this? In a short piece called The Tracks Not Taken from Film Score Monthly Volume 8 Issue number 5 you wrote about the missing elements for most of the scores, with the exception of License To Kill, I was just wondering if there was a reason why that was omitted?
Here is a summary (not by me) of the article:
The Man With The Golden Gun was on the schedule but cut due to lack of project funds. The score is on 16-track tapes just like Live and Let Die.
The Spy Who Loved did not have enough time to assemble the score. There are 24-track tapes located at Abbey Road in London, but it is not noted whether they are for the soundtrack album or the film soundtrack. Lukas also notes that 24-track tape remastering is very expensive.
A View To A Kill was recorded in London, but the tapes are not at Abbey Road for whatever reason.
Moonraker recorded in Paris and the tapes are not at Abbey Road. Originally the score heard in Moonraker theatrically was mono. Was not the films score mixed in stereo for DVD? If so the tapes exist to remaster and expand.
The article notes that Octopussy tapes were not located at Abbey Road, but may be located in MGM in Los Angeles.
Of course he notes that Dr. No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger full scores are most likely lost.
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The iPod I use for my car periodically resets itself, generally when the car has gotten cold overnight it seems. When it does that, it automatically begins playing from the first song on it by artist. Which means a-ha’s “Living Daylights” is by far my most-played track on iTunes.
Ha! You too, eh?
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Dec 3, 2018 - 11:05 AM
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davefg
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TLD is my favorite Bond score and my favorite Bond movie. That said, as much as I love it, others need expansion much, much more than it. Good lord, License To Kill above all, if possible. (I know the Clapton song is all but lost / impossible now but I've long wondered how much of the score was dropped/edited/shuffled around in the film.)
It seems to be "impossible" rather than lost according to this board: http://debrief.commanderbond.net/topic/11055-the-james-bond-theme-by-michael-kamen-and-eric-clapton/
According to a poster "I actually have been trying to get the song released since 2000. I contacted Clapton's "people" late last year and I can pretty much guarantee it won't be released anytime soon. Clapton doesn't want it heard for one reason or another.". That was 15 years ago.
Someone also contacted Vic Flick and he doesn't have a copy. Guess it is all down to Clapton.
I was wondering if Lukas, could chime in on this? In a short piece called The Tracks Not Taken from Film Score Monthly Volume 8 Issue number 5 you wrote about the missing elements for most of the scores, with the exception of License To Kill, I was just wondering if there was a reason why that was omitted?
Here is a summary (not by me) of the article:
The Man With The Golden Gun was on the schedule but cut due to lack of project funds. The score is on 16-track tapes just like Live and Let Die.
The Spy Who Loved did not have enough time to assemble the score. There are 24-track tapes located at Abbey Road in London, but it is not noted whether they are for the soundtrack album or the film soundtrack. Lukas also notes that 24-track tape remastering is very expensive.
A View To A Kill was recorded in London, but the tapes are not at Abbey Road for whatever reason.
Moonraker recorded in Paris and the tapes are not at Abbey Road. Originally the score heard in Moonraker theatrically was mono. Was not the films score mixed in stereo for DVD? If so the tapes exist to remaster and expand.
The article notes that Octopussy tapes were not located at Abbey Road, but may be located in MGM in Los Angeles.
Of course he notes that Dr. No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger full scores are most likely lost.
With lots of talk about the other Bond scores on the TWINE thread, I thought I'd bump this up.
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A View To A Kill was recorded in London, but the tapes are not at Abbey Road for whatever reason.
AVTAK was recorded at CTS. Why would the tapes be at Abbey Road?
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TLD is my favorite Bond score and my favorite Bond movie. That said, as much as I love it, others need expansion much, much more than it. Good lord, License To Kill above all, if possible. (I know the Clapton song is all but lost / impossible now but I've long wondered how much of the score was dropped/edited/shuffled around in the film.)
Yes License To Kill Please.
Not my favorite Bond film or Bond album by a long shot. But I'm reeeeeally curious what an expansion would sound like. Does LTK have the least actual score on the CD of any Bond soundtrack?
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Ultimately, I hope all the classic-era 007 scores get re-done as double-disc editions: complete, chronological scores on one disc and remastered album programme plus any spill-over on the other.
There's still something like twenty minutes of music not released from the Thunderball tapes (source music aside, there's more still unreleased music from Thunderball than there is from Moonraker) and OHMSS and The Living Daylights are not actually fully complete.
But, as fabulous as The Living Daylights is and the fact there is more music still unreleased than you probably think (there's at least 4 unreleased cues), it could never be a higher priority than completing Thunderball or tackling The Man With The Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, Octopussy of A View To A Kill (all tapes permitting).
But let's face reality. Licence To Kill might happen. The rest of the David Arnold Bond scores look likely to happen. Anything pre-Kamen though, seems like a case of, "Forget it, just completely forget it."
Cheers
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Ultimately, I hope all the classic-era 007 scores get re-done as double-disc editions: complete, chronological scores on one disc and remastered album programme plus any spill-over on the other.
There's still something like twenty minutes of music not released from the Thunderball tapes (source music aside, there's more still unreleased music from Thunderball than there is from Moonraker) and OHMSS and The Living Daylights are not actually fully complete.
But, as fabulous as The Living Daylights is and the fact there is more music still unreleased than you probably think (there's at least 4 unreleased cues), it could never be a higher priority than completing Thunderball or tackling The Man With The Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, Octopussy of A View To A Kill (all tapes permitting).
But let's face reality. Licence To Kill might happen. The rest of the David Arnold Bond scores look likely to happen. Anything pre-Kamen though, seems like a case of, "Forget it, just completely forget it."
Cheers
Everyone Needs to ask...Mrs. John Barry! Lol
Did I get this right...John Barry was going to compose Tomorrow Never Dies...but The Broccoli’s we’re not going back to see what they owed John Barry as far as royalties. Did I see this?
It seems that everyone either wants the money..or don’t want to give up the money!
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And then in 2003, the rights went to EMI CAPITOL. Also the rights for all Bond scores from DR.NO till GOLDENEYE
for the 40th Anniversary CD release series.
EMI CAPITOL is since 2013 also part of the WARNER MUSIC GROUP!
Nice try. But EMI Capitol is part of the UNIVERSAL Music Group.
D"oh######!!!!!!#
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I'm tired of misleading subject lines.
Me too, I thought this was about Daylight Savings Time being reset at 007 am
I thought it was about tNd!
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Isn't the Ryko release good enough)))))))
The real benefit of a re-issue would be separating the bonus tracks which were segued/overlapped together.
Arrest that heretic!
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