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Mar 4, 2018 - 7:46 AM
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Washu
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Are we including Lalo Schifrin in this Category? I love Jobim's score for "The Adventurers." Have you checked out Waldo De los Rios? Did Ginastera do any film scores? I totally forgot about Schifrin, he is probably the most known film composer from the region then, unless I am forgetting someone else... I am not as interested in Schifrin since he is a pretty big name, I would have listed him as an exception probably had I not forgotten about him, I was thinking more about more obscure names or composers most known for their concert music doing some film scores that aren't that well known. Thanks for the Jobim recommendation, I haven't heard that one. I have never heard of Waldo De los Rios. Not sure about Ginastera, but after a quick Google it seems like it, no clue if there is a recording or what his best score is. The suite from The Night of the Mayas is considered a masterpiece of concert music, I find it difficult to imagine that something else from the film score world from the region would live up to that. It is maybe not fair to count it, but I am counting it nontheless since it is from a film score, just like I am counting the Prokofiev suite from Kije as one of the best ever film scores.
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Revueltas's score for Redes is wonderful, recorded many times in suite form. Redes was perhaps the only memorable film he scored. It has survived and has been recently released on DVD by Naxos with both the original score and a recorded score. On Jobim's album called Jobim there is a 10-minute suite of themes from a couple of films I'm not familiar with.
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Also: I agree about The Night of the Mayas. I have every recording of Revueltas's recordings I can get my hands on, and have heard many performances of it. I would love to hear it live someday. I did get to hear the St. Louis Symphony perform Sensemaya live, though.
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Mar 4, 2018 - 7:58 AM
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OnyaBirri
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I totally forgot about Schifrin, he is probably the most known film composer from the region then, unless I am forgetting someone else... I am not as interested in Schifrin since he is a pretty big name, I was thinking more about more obscure names or composers most known for their concert music doing some film scores that aren't that well known. Thanks for the Jobim recommendation, I haven't heard that one. I have never heard of Waldo De los Rios. Not sure about Ginastera, but after a quick Google it seems like it, no clue if there is a recording or what his best score is. The suite from The Night of the Mayas is considered a masterpiece of concert music, I find it difficult to imagine that something else from the film score world from the region would live up to that. It is maybe not fair to count it, but I am counting it nontheless since it is from a film score, just like I am counting the Prokofiev suite from Kije as one of the best ever film scores. You could argue that Schifrin does not truly meet your criteria, because he left Argentina to study in Paris, and then made his musical splash in the U.S. Jobim did an an album circa 1972, the one with "Waters of March," that has an instrumental suite on side 2. I believe this was composed for a film, but I will have to check. I have I believe four scores by Waldo De los Rios, including "Who Can Kill a Child" and "Savage Pampas," and they are absolutely top-notch. I have not spent enough time listening to this composer, but I need to. And then there is Villa-Lobos, who scored "Green Mansions," but Bronislau Kaper rescued this score with his own contributions.
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Does anything by Luis Bacalov count??!
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Is The Night of the Mayas by Silvestre Revueltas is the best South/Latin American film score of all time? That would have been my pick, but I am not familiar with many South American or Latin American film scores. Can you name other top film scores from that region - note, they must be composed by South or Latin American composers, that is the qualification here, not necessarily produced in any of the countries. I haven't seen many films from Latin America, but here are some of the ones whose music scores I liked: Mexico El esqueleto de la señora Morales (1960), music by Raúl Lavista (aka Skeleton of Mrs. Morales) Macario (1960), music by Raúl Lavista Yanco (1961), music by Gustavo César Carrión Argentina Los siete locos (1973), music by Mariano Etkin (Seven Madmen, directed by Leopoldo Torre Nilsson) Cuba La última cena (1976), music by Leo Brouwer (aka The Last Supper, directed by Tomás Gutiérrez Alea) Peru La muralla verde (1969), music by Enrique Pinilla
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I was thinking more about more obscure names or composers most known for their concert music doing some film scores that aren't that well known. In classical music circles, music from Latin America is typically not on their radars. During the mid-1990s, labels like ASV and Dorian Discoveries produced volumes of albums under banners as "Musica Mexicana" or "Music from Latin American masters". I don't think such CD series were deemed as successful and, I dare think, much of the compositions by Latin American composers remain unrecorded and/or unperformed. Colorful-sounding & programmic music is considered as '3rd tier' music by lots of classical music people.
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Well, if we're moving into the realm of south-american flavored scores by composers from other countries, then note that one of Revueltas's students, somebody named Alex North, wrote some amazing Mexican-flavored scores like Viva Zapata, Wonderful Country, Under the Volcano, and even Carny shows Revuestas's influence.
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