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 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

Original clue from Roger:

Third time's the charm on this one. Not necessarily expanded, but some resequencing and improved sound and definitely improved packaging makes for this score's latest incarnation. Tried to include the vocals but wasn't possible.

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7749&sid=97de5122ecb39c1c3e41412ca7626b8d


Original press-release:




RAMBO III
Composed and Conducted by JERRY GOLDSMITH
INTRADA INT 7150

Intrada has given one of its long-standing catalog titles a refresh in this latest edition of Jerry Goldsmith's 1988 score to Rambo III. With this title back in the catalog, Intrada now has the complete Rambo trilogy in print. For this newly re-edited and remastered 30th Anniversary release, Intrada accessed Mike Ross-Trevor’s multi-track mixes made from the original scoring session masters. The sequencing of the previous releases was altered from that of the picture in some instances for purely musical purposes and has served listeners well for nearly three decades. This all-new presentation offers everything Jerry Goldsmith recorded for Rambo III during March and April of 1988 but now in the sequence he originally intended for the film.

In the film, the 1979 – 1989 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan becomes the broader story, with Rambo’s daring rescue of a captured Col. Trautman (Richard Crenna) the major story arc. The largely Islamic jihadists fighting the recently established leftist government – now making ties with the Soviets—were portrayed as sympathetic freedom fighters and were in fact historically given support by the United States. In response, Jerry Goldsmith fashioned his most haunting and emotional new material for them. He wrote what is possibly the largest number of separate themes for a single score of his career, resulting in a musical architecture that distinguishes the score for Rambo III from its predecessors, lending the score a shape characteristic of a small group of Goldsmith film scores, including The Sand Pebbles and The Challenge.

INTRADA INT 7150
Barcode: 7 20258 71502 9
Retail Price: $19.99
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For track listing and sound samples, please visit: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11455/.f

Rambo III re-sequenced, re-mastered, re-packaged! After lengthy delay, third and final score by Jerry Goldsmith in initial Rambo trilogy finally brings Intrada CD series under one roof at the same time. John Rambo takes on Russians in Afghanistan in effort to rescue captured Colonel Trainman. Sylvester Stallone, Richard Crenna star, John Stainier photographs, Stallone & Sheldon Lettich script, Buzz Feitshans produces, Peter MacDonald directs. Jerry Goldsmith writes his longest Rambo score, infuses it with the largest number of thematic ideas as well. Melodies from first two films do appear but this time Goldsmith emphasizes all-new Rambo-in-action material with new rhythmic foundations as well. Also of note: Architectural device of new four-note building block that launches new theme. Motif not only anchors new Rambo theme but also opens other new material including music for Afghanistan locale plus beautiful minor-key theme underlining Rambo’s loyalty to new friends helping him in his cause. Capturing center stage none-the-less is dynamic action music wherein four-note motif in brass over familiar mixed-meter rhythms in left-hand digital piano literally propel Rambo into action. Goldsmith himself dubbed forte performance of piano overlays during mixing to create unusually commanding timbre. Post-production editing of the film created necessity to truncate numerous cues, replace others with tracks from second film. As such, CD for Rambo III features music not heard in final film. Highlights of score are numerous but standing tall is powerful ending sequence when Rambo parts with new friends, rides off in Jeep with Trautman. Here, Goldsmith returns to his very first “Homecoming” theme from movie that launched series, First Blood. As solo trumpet gives way to strings, entire orchestra crescendoes in powerful fortissimo farewell to this most emotional of Goldsmith themes. Entire following end credit music heard in same cue (“I’ll Stay”) offers magnificent medley of new action theme with haunting minor-key theme, culminating in stirring coda that melds both second and third film’s themes in single muscular flourish. Great finale to the trilogy! Intrada presents entire score from first generation three-track masters mixed by Mike Ross-Trevor from his original Otari 32-track digital scoring session elements. Previous releases were produced from two-track session DATs. New mastering adds weight, clarity. Score also now presented for the first time in film sequence. New liner notes focusing on thematic ideas plus revised packaging from Kay Marshall complete this definitive look at a genuine Goldsmith action classic! “The first time was for himself. The second was for his country. This time is for his friend.” Arthur Morton, Nancy Beach orchestrate, Jerry Goldsmith composes, conducts Hungarian State Opera Orchestra.

Track-list:
01. Carolco Logo (0:19)
02. Preparations (6:24)
03. The Money (0:51)
04. Another Time (3:56)
05. I’m Used To It (0:59)
06. Peshawar (1:11)
07. Afghanistan (2:37)
08. Questions (3:37)
09. Then I’ll Die (3:34)
10. The Game (2:25)
11. Flaming Village (4:07)
12. The Aftermath (2:42)
13. Night Entry (3:59)
14. Under And Over (2:55)
15. Night Fight (6:51)
16. First Aid (2:45)
17. The Long Climb (2:58)
18. Going Down (1:04)
19. Running Wild (0:30)
20. Find Cover (0:51)
21. The Cave (3:32)
22. The Boot (1:54)
23. You Did It, John (1:07)
24. Final Battle (6:13)
25. I’ll Stay (9:01)

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

Rambo III!

The Goldsmith trilogy is now complete.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

God how do I justify buying this a 4th time. I love the score but man you’d think if they have a record seeing that a customer bought it from them twice already they’d just send the discs with improved sound. Wishful thinking of course because they are out to make money.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

Looking forward to see the new subdued artwork wink

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

God how do I justify buying this a 4th time. I love the score but man you’d think if they have a record seeing that a customer bought it from them twice already they’d just send the discs with improved sound. Wishful thinking of course because they are out to make money.

Assuming it sold out each time, I would think the target audience is people who never bought it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

God how do I justify buying this a 4th time. I love the score but man you’d think if they have a record seeing that a customer bought it from them twice already they’d just send the discs with improved sound. Wishful thinking of course because they are out to make money.

Assuming it sold out each time, I would think the target audience is people who never bought it.


Haha good point. I am such a loyal Intrada customer I think I have to buy every release.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I'm in (again) for Rambo III

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Bring em on

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Again a re-release?

How exciting...... :-/

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

If this is a difinitive / complete remastering of Rambo III, I'll most likely bite.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

I don't know what exactly was the problem with the packaging last time...

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

I don't know what exactly was the problem with the packaging last time...

Who said there was anything wrong?


http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=7741


Generally speaking they follow the same work flow as a new title, but usually it takes less research on the licensor's side and we've already located elements (or just discovered new ones) and that helps. When we tried to add the songs to RAMBO III it opened up all sorts of complications and we decided to just give the score a new mastering and redo the packaging, foregoing the songs. I lover the cover art, but the colors were so pumped up it looked cartoonish and for this new release Kay really got its original colors to shine.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I don't know what exactly was the problem with the packaging last time...

Well, it's extremely ugly. But it sounds like it's going to be that same art again, just color corrected.



Not that I mind, mind you. There's no shortage of ugly film art out there, and while attractive cover designs are nice, I've never purchased a CD because of it, or not purchased a CD because of it.

I won't be buying this new "Rambo." Quite content with the old one. But no reason it shouldn't be back out there, and given that, no reason they shouldn't tweak it if they can. Which I guess they can.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Also, like MV said in another thread, re-issues are generally a license to print money.
So if this release fills the Intrada coffers, enabling them to take a gamble on some unreleased David Newman, Bruce Broughton, Lee Holdridge or Frederic Talgorn, it's all good smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

OK, artwork aside, so what's the CD / audio difference between:

RVF6006D


and

MAF 7094:


?

And, will this new release have anything that these other two haven't?

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Some quotes about what may or may not be on it:
http://www.jerrygoldsmithonline.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=5071

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Between those two above Ian, night and day mate.
I have (or had) both issues and the improvement in sound on the 2nd release is massive.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Seconding McGann above, if you don't have it,
get the forthcoming, or the above helicopter cover issue. HUGE HUGE improvement in sound quality over the obsolete, initial Intrada issue.
Everyone should dump that first version.

-Sean

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

I have only the initial Intrada expansion, and have never been bothered by it's sound, although I don't have the newer version to compare to.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2018 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Riotengine will buy it
[sighs and shakes head]

 
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