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 Posted:   Feb 19, 2018 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

My favorite Vertigo is still the OST album version. But you have to get the Mercury CD, which has much better sound than the Varese.

For an expanded Vertigo, I use the Mercury OST and then add tracks from the McNeely album.

The early vibes entry on the main title of the OST is one of the most fortuitous film music mistakes ever. Every other version seems wrong without it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2018 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

As mentioned in passing above, I also thought specific suites from the Saalonen album were terrific. 451, Vertigo, Psycho, and most especially the aforementioned Torn Curtain, the last of which for me has never sounded as good.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2018 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

I love the Saalonen recording.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this Rozsa recording (presumably an Australian re-issue of the Phase 4 recordings)? Specifically, the Julius Caesar and Quo Vadis recordings which appear to be conducted by Bernard Herrmann?!

https://www.amazon.com/Rozsa-Julius-Caesar-NATIONAL-2010-11-19/dp/B01G65HBUE

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2018 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The Saalonen was for me a mixed bag. The highlights were the longer suites from Psycho and 451. The low point was Taxi Driver, which suffered from that tepid "Film music night at the Pops" approach. But Vertigo was a real disappointment. It lacked the mystery and romance that I pick up in every other version I have. It sounds like it was the last thing recorded at the session, and they did not want to pay the musicians overtime.

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2018 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

The Saalonen was for me a mixed bag. The highlights were the longer suites from Psycho and 451. The low point was Taxi Driver, which suffered from that tepid "Film music night at the Pops" approach. But Vertigo was a real disappointment. It lacked the mystery and romance that I pick up in every other version I have. It sounds like it was the last thing recorded at the session, and they did not want to pay the musicians overtime.

I agree, both Vertigo and TD were the weak points.

I must admit though, I actually sold my McNeely Torn Curtain after listening to the Salonen. Nothing on that former rerecording moved me anywhere near as much as the (incomplete) three tracks on the Salonen. Imo Torn Curtain was an obviously unfinished score and I felt the "full treatment" it got might even have angered Bernard (similar to the way JG felt about Not Without My Daughter). There's a lot of underscoring in the full version that dregs up stuff that he recorded in bulk decades before that (source music used a temp track), and likely wouldn't have made the movie as it was.

I could be wrong about any of this...for me TC is one of those rare scores I'm more than happy to have incomplete. Besides, imo, the McNeely recording was in a way like how Onya described the Salonen Taxi Driver suite. A glossy, Pops sounding audio presentation.

But that's just my humble opinion; compare the TC prelude on the McNeely to the one on the Salonen. It's so much more dramatic and necessarily BIG.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2018 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I love the Saalonen recording.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this Rozsa recording (presumably an Australian re-issue of the Phase 4 recordings)? Specifically, the Julius Caesar and Quo Vadis recordings which appear to be conducted by Bernard Herrmann?!

https://www.amazon.com/Rozsa-Julius-Caesar-NATIONAL-2010-11-19/dp/B01G65HBUE


B-H and QV are the well-known 1970s versions from Rozsa himself, both in spectacular sound. JC comes from a Herrmann-conducted collection of Shakespearean scores by Walton, Shostakovich, and Rozsa. Tempos are sluggish, as usual in Herrmann's late years.

 
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