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 Posted:   Jan 28, 2018 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   tvogt1   (Member)

You blind buy a score because a fellow film score fan (or fans) highly recommend it. And you end up HATING it. Or at least say to yourself, "Wow, was THAT nothing special."

That is what happened to me with How to Train Your Dragon. I didn't hate it, but I never understood the love.

Has this happened to you?

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2018 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I got swept up in the enthusiasm of others when Batman The Animated Series came to CD. I ended up not connecting with the material.

A few years later I was raving about the soundtrack release of S.O.S. Titanic (Blake). A guy who took my word and bought it blind was not so happy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2018 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Now THIS will be a thread!!!
I just pulled this on McGann a few weeks ago, that new Donaggio, Dove something or other....sucker!!! ;-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2018 - 11:58 PM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

Two scores that most people are raving about all the time but after listening to them I just shrugged: Band of Brothers by Kamen and Total Recall by Goldsmith. I tried to understand the hype, listened to them several times, and finally got rid of them...

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

The recent release of Intrada's Damnation Alley. I listened to it four times. Didn't care for it at all. I couldn't give it away fast enough.



 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 2:52 AM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)

I followed the herd mentality on this board twice, First with GHOSTBUSTERS (Varese Sarabande CD Club). Not only did enjoy the music I discovered that it was boot. Since the option for getting a refund had expired and the seller vanished off Ebay I was out of pocket for something that I could not re-sell.

The Intrada release of the Hunt for the Red October. Based on the Hymn to Red October I expected a Russian infused symphonic score with some synths. So I was in for a shock when I heard the full score. Still trying to offload it. Weirdly I really enjoy Crimson Tide by Zimmer .

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Not really, no.

In this day and age, "blind buys" aren't really much of an issue, since you can almost always sample stuff online first. Even whole albums.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

The recent release of Intrada's Damnation Alley. I listened to it four times. Didn't care for it at all. I couldn't give it away fast enough.

Indeed this WILL be an interesting thread! So tempting to react with a "Whaaaaaat???? It's a masterpiece"! But I won't. Although it is.

Here are two I've banged on about before. I'm no big fan of JG's post-'90s scores, but I was swept up in the seemingly endless praise heaped on both BASIC INSTINCT and THE HOLLOW MAN. I even saw the two films, so knew what to expect, up to a certain point. I resisted buying the CDs then one day I crumbled. BASIC INSTINCT had been hailed as a stunning achievement, HOLLOW MAN as a work of genius, depth, maturity and complexity equalled only by the best of Stravinsky. So I listened and listened to them. And each time all I heard was sledgehammer-subtle crash-bang-wallop, and embarrassingly corny orgasm music.

My next post on this topic shall be even more fascinating, but it's one I'm almost ashamed to admit. I'll hold off for now. This might not even be the right thread for it. Where's that old "Waxman On, Waxman Off" topic? That's a hint.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 3:09 AM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)

HOLLOW MAN as a work of genius, depth, maturity and complexity equalled only by the best of Stravinsky.

LOL who said that? It has to be one of his worst!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

HOLLOW MAN as a work of genius, depth, maturity and complexity equalled only by the best of Stravinsky.

LOL who said that? It has to be one of his worst!


Lots and lots and lots and lots of people said it! Ken Russell's one.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I'm still waiting to hear what all the fuss was about;
JAWS
EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
CONAN
E.T.
STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE
wink
I will think in my brain and see if I've fallen for any other of Goblin's tricks!

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

I will not succumb to the temptation to react with a "Whaaaaaat???? It's a masterpiece" either! So here are just my examples:

I literaly regret and even hate everything I bought from guys like Jonny Greenwood, Nick Cave, Warren Ellis, Trend Reznor, Atticus Ross, Cliff Martinez, etc. Never understood why some fellows praise such a boring and pointless noise.

Another example would be when, precisely advised by a friend, I bought several Italian scores from old comedy movies. After listening to this unbearable for me "circus-kind" music, I was so happy when I sold them all.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I usually know what I'm getting myself into musically. I think I've received only one bad recommendation on a score that I paid a dollar for.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I will not succumb to the temptation to react with a "Whaaaaaat???? It's a masterpiece" either! So here are just my examples:

I literaly regret and even hate everything I bought from guys like Jonny Greenwood, Nick Cave, Warren Ellis, Trend Reznor, Atticus Ross, Cliff Martinez, etc. Never understood why some fellows praise such a boring and pointless noise.

Another example would be when, precisely advised by a friend, I bought several Italian comedy scores from old movies. After listening to this unbearable for me "circus-kind" music, I was so happy when I sold them all.


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????? They're all masterpieces!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:07 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

Too many for me to list. When I first started collecting I dove into every recommendation. Without
puking on people's taste I will just say every composer has a turkey now and then. I got rid
of a lot of Goldsmith and Williams. And there are lots of Golden Age that I saw no excitement from.
I learned a lot listening to a variety, but it always comes down to knowing what you like and trusting your instincts. The first ones that come to mind: Shawshank Redemption, Explorers, The Fugitive, Empire of the Sun and Robocop.

BTW: Brian, if you want to get rid of Hunt for Red October, I can do a trade with you. I agree, the
Russian hyme is the best part but I still am looking to purchase it for that part. If you live in the U.S. email me and I will help you get rid of that. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

The one I "hinted" at earlier is something that wasn't actually recommended to me personally, but rather something from a composer whose work I "mostly" like, from a period of film scoring which is among my favourites, and for a sure-fire genre of musical richness that has rarely disappointed me. I'm still too embarrassed to admit that it's a score which I just can't get into. Not yet at least. I'll spill the beans later.

That might be an interesting line of discussion. Sort of like you're a Jerry Goldsmith nutcase, your favourite genre is SF/action, you're crazy about his '70s scores - and yet you're left cold by, say... DAMNATION ALLEY.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:17 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

You blind buy a score because a fellow film score fan (or fans) highly recommend it. And you end up HATING it. Or at least say to yourself, "Wow, was THAT nothing special."

I have lots of Tadlow/Prometheus releases - Jarre, Tiomkin, Barry etc - which I thoroughly enjoy. So when they released their recording of "Conan the Barbarian" I bought it too, based on the positive comments posted here. I wasn't familiar with the score beforehand, and after a few listens realised I didn't like it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)



BTW: Brian, if you want to get rid of Hunt for Red October, I can do a trade with you. I agree, the
Russian hyme is the best part but I still am looking to purchase it for that part. If you live in the U.S. email me and I will help you get rid of that. smile


Alas outside (Ireland).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:42 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

I do not blind buy anything anymore. I know what film composers I like and I buy their scores and stay away from those composers I have no interest in anymore. If I did not get into your work the first few times, I do not believe I will find anything that will get me going again. Those composers works I did not like, I have sold off their CDs or they are still in my unwanted box waiting to be sold or trashed.

This thread is a good example of the range of what people like and do not like. People hate Damnation Alley? Hollow Man? The Hunt For Red October? Total Recall? HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON? 4 of the 5 are some of my favorites! Then there are those crazy people on here that love the works of that Zimmer fellow who has ruined film composing as a whole over the years for me. I agree with Thor, if someone recommends something, I listen to the samples or have seen the movie and it does not take too long for me to say, "No, not my type of score." Most of my collection is Late 60's into early 2000's, before that, the score has to be epic and after that you have to have themes, none of this brammmmmm or electric noodling stuff!

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2018 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

recording of "Conan the Barbarian" I bought it too, based on the positive comments posted here. I wasn't familiar with the score beforehand, and after a few listens realised I didn't like it.

Whch begs the question: Don't you people ever watch the films to hear the music? Everyone here seems more album oriented than film oriented.

Another thing, Graham Watt's post about Total Recall and Hollow Man reminds me once more: never trust Jeff Bond's opinion. Instead, see the film first, hear the score, and then come to your own conclusions. Total Recall works quite well within the movie, but as a standalone listen, it's a crashing musical bore.

 
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