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 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Oh right. You said “abuser”; But in the context you said it, it was obvious what you were suggesting - and clearly you were not suggesting Cameron was an abuser of his Netflix account.
Oh I see. So making dumb baseless accusations about a public figure on the internet is ok but making similar remarks about someone I don’t know, arrived at using the same “logic” you did, is unacceptable. Sorry, you’re right, I don’t get “whole entire level of nuance” about the laws of defamation but then I’m obviously not the intellectual and legal genius you are.



Now you're getting it. Sort of.
(Except for the irony part.)
smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Oh right. You said “abuser”; But in the context you said it, it was obvious what you were suggesting - and clearly you were not suggesting Cameron was an abuser of his Netflix account.
Oh I see. So making dumb baseless accusations about a public figure on the internet is ok but making similar remarks about someone I don’t know, arrived at using the same “logic” you did, is unacceptable. Sorry, you’re right, I don’t get “whole entire level of nuance” about the laws of defamation but then I’m obviously not the intellectual and legal genius you are.



Now you're getting it. Sort of.
(Except for the irony part.)
smile


The only thing i’m getting from your posts is your earlier suggestion that one doesn’t have to be an arsehole to recognise one - you’ve certainly proved your point on that one.



 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I'm with Bill, arguing about James Cameron? A director with a very soft centre, people must have something better to do. It'll be arguments & insults about Michael Bay next.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Haha. Mike's devotion to Cameron does border on worship at times.
"I've never seen such devotion in a droid"

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Haha. Mike's devotion to Cameron does border on worship at times.
"I've never seen such devotion in a droid"



It's really something, that's for sure.
But I'm backpedalling on my earlier theory. Cameron was never known to be an ad hominem type--it couldn't be him.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Haha. Mike's devotion to Cameron does border on worship at times.
"I've never seen such devotion in a droid"


I’m a big fan of his movies -as a guy he comes across as a big dick.

However I would have made precisely the same comments to Octoberman whoever he had made his comments about. And ill tell you why. 6 years ago I had a major falling out with my employer which resulted in a very acrimonious split. They then proceeded to poison potential employer’s against me with a campaign of making baseless accusations and lies. Fortunately not everyone in my industry is a dick and many dismissed these things for what there were - total shit. But I have seen first hand how destructive it can be when stupid morons make accusations -they spread and before long, in certain quarters, they become fact.

Now, just for the record, if Cameron or any other filmmaker I admire turned out to be genuinely a sex pest I would have no further interest in their work at all, and they deserve all they get. But until that time, the only people who should be making the accusations are those who have directly suffered, not people who believe they can deduce something just because they have squinty eyes or whatever the fuck Octoberman was basing his pathetic comments on.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Either that, or you are James Cameron. big grin



I’d just like to confirm that Mike is not James Cameron, David Cameron, Cameron Diaz or Doctor Cameron from Doctor Finlay’s Casebook. Only one of these have I arranged to meet near the gent’ toilets in the O2 Arena, and sadly it wasn’t Ms Diaz.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)


Either that, or you are James Cameron. big grin



I’d just like to confirm that Mike is not James Cameron, David Cameron, Cameron Diaz or Doctor Cameron from Doctor Finlay’s Casebook. Only one of these have I arranged to meet near the gent’ toilets in the O2 Arena, and sadly it wasn’t Ms Diaz.



Absolutely agree. Couldn't be him.
The real Cameron, regardless of his personal issues, is rarely reported to find time giving a tinker's cuss about what 2 goobers on an internet discussion board have to say.

"Big f*cking glass house" indeed. big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Haha. Mike's devotion to Cameron does border on worship at times.
"I've never seen such devotion in a droid"


I’m a big fan of his movies -as a guy he comes across as a big dick.

However I would have made precisely the same comments to Octoberman whoever he had made his comments about. And ill tell you why. 6 years ago I had a major falling out with my employer which resulted in a very acrimonious split. They then proceeded to poison potential employer’s against me with a campaign of making baseless accusations and lies. Fortunately not everyone in my industry is a dick and many dismissed these things for what there were - total shit. But I have seen first hand how destructive it can be when stupid morons make accusations -they spread and before long, in certain quarters, they become fact.

Now, just for the record, if Cameron or any other filmmaker I admire turned out to be genuinely a sex pest I would have no further interest in their work at all, and they deserve all they get. But until that time, the only people who should be making the accusations are those who have directly suffered, not people who believe they can deduce something just because they have squinty eyes or whatever the fuck Octoberman was basing his pathetic comments on.


You mean like your baseless attack and accusations on Oct's character?

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

You mean like your baseless attack and accusations on Oct's character?


Everyone knows I have no character.
It's my best quality.
I just reflect the times, baby, I just reflect the times....
smile

(But seriously, that's what I meant with the irony thing. But the irony-challenged would never get it, which was the whole point. big grin)

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Jeez guys. Leave it now, walk away, nothing to see here.
Mike go take your jag for a drive and oct go check if any composer songwriter orchestrators have posted music clips. big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Jeez guys. Leave it now, walk away, nothing to see here.
Mike go take your jag for a drive and oct go check if any composer songwriter orchestrators have posted music clips. big grin



Jolly good idea at any time.
(I literally had zero to add further at this point.)
Consider it done.
smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Jeez guys. Leave it now, walk away, nothing to see here.
Mike go take your jag for a drive and oct go check if any composer songwriter orchestrators have posted music clips. big grin


I have a Porsche now.

However, I have neither the time, inclination, or the crayons to continue the conversation with Octoberman so yeah walking away is good advice.

To be honest I may just keep on walking - my exchange with him has made me awake to the fact that, just because someone has the same interest in music as me, doesn’t stop me from finding them irritating little pricks, so I think I’ll take a leave of absence from FSM for a while. I have enough shit in my life as it is without having to deal with people like Octoberman.

TTFN.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I come back from dinner to find this.

For what it's worth Mike, I was ready and willing to bury the hatchet.

I know you are having health issues, so do what you have to do to keep on top of it--and for the record I would never want you or anyone else to leave for any reason or for any length of time.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2018 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Mike, we all have bad days where things grind our gears and we react, when, in hindsight, its a nuffin about nuffin and on another day it would blow over us. Certainly not worth falling out over, especially when its two of our long-serving more "normal" posters.
And anyone who managed to get on dick minus dubya's on-ignore list deserves a leo dicaprio toasting pic!! smile

Sunny day in the south - Get that porsche out on the 127 and give it blast on the 70mph bit and everything will seem different!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2018 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

This is how the FSM board used to be ten years ago, insults, people going off on a strop, it's far too polite these days. So fuck the lot of you, I'm Off! (for the next couple of hours anyway).

A few years back I stopped posting for a few months...& no one even noticed!

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2018 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Is the FSM board a 'Tough' board?

We all need breaks from it from time to time.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2018 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The irony of the bully acting like the victim, and then playing the sympathy card by announcing their departure. Don't let the virtual door hit you on the way out. What, was that to mean?

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2018 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Probably falls into the category of unnecessary. And best deleted.
Oct has been man enough to offer the olive branch, so its time to let it lie and move on.

 
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