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 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   merlyn   (Member)

TERRIBLE FILM AND EVEN WORST MUSIC

IF ZIMMER WINS THE ACADEMY AWARD FOR DUNKIRK. ALL THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE ARE NUTS

Lyn

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Was yelling really necessary?

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I am even more convinced the parts of the score that most irritated me would have improved immensely with no music at all.

I get that. But I think that Zimmer's sounds played to the terror inside the characters' heads, the chaos we couldn't see or hear.

Now that I've defended it, I will add that I found the film lacking in many ways. My only point, really, was that I'm perplexed by the anger some have shown here.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

I watched Dunkirk for the first time last weekend the way I wanted to after hearing all the reports of ear damage in theaters: at home with the volume down. The movie is fine, and the score on a tight leash didn't factor into it much except for a low throbbing that was suspense-inducing but otherwise unremarkable. I disagree with the decision to give it an Oscar nod. There were much better scores in 2017.

P.S. Damn, I love Mark Rylance's understated acting style.

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 Posted:   Feb 7, 2018 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I saw this film twice at Imax, London and for me, the score worked brilliantly. Film music isn't just about sweeping themes, catchy title songs or jaunty marches. Zimmer delivered big time for the movie. If he wins the Oscar then good on him.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2018 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

This debate will go nowhere, as with most internet debates, because everyone's taking their opponents' viewpoints to the opposite extreme to polarise and straw-man the opposition.

Those who think it's a good score caricature it's detractors as reactionary fuddy-duddies who like a good tune. Those who dislike the score bemoan the lack of complexity, emotion and standalone integrity, and pity those who pretend to aesthetic reasons for digital choices.

There's nothing to gain from these simplifications. The music fits the film.

My problem is appreciating the film. If course it's not trying to be an epic representational depiction of the history. It tries to be a more existential rollercoaster of the universal human condition of stress in flight or unremitting perils.

'tries to ...

I just didn't feel what I was meant to feel. There wasn't even enough to hang a projection onto. It's great to 'play with time' in a film (e.g. 'A Matter of Life and Death'). It's great to edit the viewer into the experience. It's good to play with chaos.

But I felt none of the things people are claiming they did or ought to have.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I saw this film twice at Imax, London and for me, the score worked brilliantly. Film music isn't just about sweeping themes, catchy title songs or jaunty marches. Zimmer delivered big time for the movie. If he wins the Oscar then good on him.

Peter, you restore me, you leadeth me to green pastures.....

 
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