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 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 5:15 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Just heard the really good music for the fan-made STAR TREK CONTINUES series by Andy Farber.

He used some original material by Courage, Steiner, Mulendore and other TOS-Composers, partly re-arranged it but also
composed new material that truly fits in the style.

For fans of the ST:TOS music DEFENETLY worth to hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VEZH8bqytA

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCBuaTnDsQs


Somebody knows, if some of the music is avaible somewhere?

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Well aside from the final episode, the bulk of Star Trek Continues' soundtrack is lifted straight from the LaLaLand boxset. They didn't start including original music until arround episode 5 or 6 (and even then the OG stuff is partially tracked in, just like the old show!). I wouldn't expect to a see a physical release though as the whole thing was a not-for-profit.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Well aside from the final episode, the bulk of Star Trek Continues' soundtrack is lifted straight from the LaLaLand boxset. They didn't start including original music until arround episode 5 or 6 (and even then the OG stuff is partially tracked in, just like the old show!). I wouldn't expect to a see a physical release though as the whole thing was a not-for-profit.

Well, in Episode 4 (The White Iris) for instans, there are NEW (and very fine) arrangments of the great love themes of several episodes, wich are DEFENETLY not lifted from the LaLaLand box.

Maybe then there is a free-download of some music somewhere (when its not-for-profit)?

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

On the composer's site these videos are all about scoring for the show:





 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Interesting -- never heard it before. I suspect, being a non-profit series because of the IP rights issues, there can't be a legal release of the original scoring.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Impressive HOW GOOD those arrangments are.

Truly in the style of the original scores.

Sadly, mostly no modern composer seem to be able to do this kind of music anymore today.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Just watched To Boldly Go parts 1 and 2 last night.

1) I feel like I just watched the last episodes of Star Trek. Most impressive.
2) The MUSIC is amazing. And I guess that answers the question of how the samples could sound so good. Real TV shows can't get real orchestras but an internet fan series can?!?

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2017 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Real TV shows can't get real orchestras but an internet fan series can?!?

Real TV shows can't afford to contract a real orchestra, but an internet fan series can accept the help of people who donate their talent and time because they want to be involved.

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2017 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

There's a big difference between a tv show which does 15-20 shows a year and a fan film series that put out 10 episodes sporadically over the course of five years.

And again every episode of Continues did make use of tracks off the box set. These weren't full scores.

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2017 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

There's a big difference between a tv show which does 15-20 shows a year and a fan film series that put out 10 episodes sporadically over the course of five years.

And again every episode of Continues did make use of tracks off the box set. These weren't full scores.


All true. I was just shocked that the had an orchestra at all.

It was a fun experience after hearing all of the tracked cues to hear a piece of music swerve right when I was expecting left.

This is the first fan film where I've really wanted the music.

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2017 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Real TV shows can't afford to contract a real orchestra, but an internet fan series can accept the help of people who donate their talent and time because they want to be involved.

Except for "The Orville".

Except for "American Dad".

Except for "Family Guy".

Except for "The Simpsons".

Except for "Star Wars: Rebels".

And others I don't recall off hand.


It's really what the budget can afford (now, how that budget is put together is a whole other story).

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2017 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

It's an interesting exercise to be sure and I applaud Farber's attempts at capturing the old "Trek" score sound. However, had ST:TOS been renewed for a fourth year (1969-70 season) I am confident that electronics (particularly electronic sequencing) would have figured much more into the scoring, the powers-at-be at Paramount/NBC probably insisting on a more "modern" sound (Duning had already used, to good effect, the Yamaha E-3 on "the Empath"), perhaps something along the lines of what Ray Ellis did for ST: TAS, in an attempt to appeal to a growing, younger demographic (because young people, even in those days, bought cars, shampoo, fabric softener, frozen pizza rolls and toothpaste). S3/4 Mannix, S4/5 M:I scores (that is, the more orchestral-sounding cues) provide some indication of what S4 "Star Trek" music might have sounded like as both Paramount-produced series employed a number of former Star Trek composers: Steiner, Fried, Duning and Fielding (whose style evolution can be heard on this show). Courage, who likely had all the work at Fox he could handle with major film orchestrations assignments, episodes of Bracken's World, Lancer, Daniel Boone, etc, might have returned for an episode (provided Roddenberry wasn't too heavily involved*). Also, since Laurence Rosenthal was scoring some Mannix's at the time he, too, may have been brought into the "Trekverse" (all of his "Mannix" scores are superb, among the best scoring in the series) as he would have fit right in with the ST veterans. Harry Geller, who worked on VTBS, Land of the Giants, WWW and M:I, might have been another composer tried out.

More power to you, Andy. Sounds like one "cool gig."

* - because of Roddenberry attaching dashed off lyrics to Courage's theme (in an attempt to make some money of the show) entitling the former to half of Sandy's royalties (and this for lyrics never heard in the show).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   AJFarber   (Member)

Impressive HOW GOOD those arrangments are.

Truly in the style of the original scores.

Sadly, mostly no modern composer seem to be able to do this kind of music anymore today.


Actually, I'm sure many composers can write in that style. It's just that there aren't producers and directors, asking for underscores in that style.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   AJFarber   (Member)

Real TV shows can't get real orchestras but an internet fan series can?!?

Real TV shows can't afford to contract a real orchestra, but an internet fan series can accept the help of people who donate their talent and time because they want to be involved.



Real TV shows can most definitely afford to get a real orchestra, and pay a healthy creative fee to composers. The reason that many TV series don't, is because the producers no longer see a value in acoustic, orchestral scores. TV budgets are high, compared with budgets from the 60s, at least for network shows. The money is simply spent elsewhere. The same goes for feature film.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   AJFarber   (Member)

Here's the video about scoring episode 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQdbT1Qn5w

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Here's the video about scoring episode 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQdbT1Qn5w


Wonderful!

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2017 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

It's an interesting exercise to be sure and I applaud Farber's attempts at capturing the old "Trek" score sound. However, had ST:TOS been renewed for a fourth year (1969-70 season) I am confident that electronics (particularly electronic sequencing) would have figured much more into the scoring.

Just listen to the INTRADA set of Dunings THEN CAME BRONSON (a television series from 1969/70).
There you got a god impression of a "modern" style of Duning.
Some of the themes/cues Duning possible would had used for a 4th season of Star Trek!

The new link of the last episode of ST:Continius shows again, what INCREDIBLE good job Andy Farber does for the series.

Its a shame, that the his compositions probably will never see the light of the day seperatly :-/

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2017 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   Andy Farber   (Member)

Hi gang,
Thanks for all the kind words.

STC may make the music available soon, but if anyone would like access to the final mixes, send me a message on my facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/andy.farber.5

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2017 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Hi gang,
Thanks for all the kind words.

STC may make the music available soon, but if anyone would like access to the final mixes, send me a message on my facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/andy.farber.5


That's super news!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Wow, what a great Christmas gift!

THANK YOU ANDY!!!

:-)

 
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