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 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   BlindDoc   (Member)

Hello Mutant/all,

Being a complete fanatic of the Halloween III score (and i know that The Mutant is too), here's something that i only learned yesterday (but most have probably known for years):

In 2014, Death Waltz re-released their Halloween III LP as a "Deluxe Edition" containing some score cues that were omitted from the AHI CD.

Here's the Discogs link:

https://www.discogs.com/de/John-Carpenter-Alan-Howarth-Halloween-III-Season-Of-The-Witch/release/6352416

Additional score cues are:

- Chariots Of Pumpkins (film/Grimbridge chase version)
- Gas Station (Grimbridge breaking down in gas station)
- Halloween Jingle ("two more days" version)
- Halloween Jingle ("one more day" version)

Of additional interest: "Hey Boom" ("Robot kills Grimbridge" on LP) is a new mix/mastering that does NOT eliminate the pulse/beat when the sequencer kicks in. Much, much better IMHO. Also, "The Factory" (i can't recall what it's called on the LP) does NOT distort when the stingers set in (unlike on the AHI CD).

The tracklist is also misleading though, quite in AHI fashion (smile).

It Looks as if i was still able to snatch up a used copy (still in transit though) for a fairly decent price.

How weird that i didn't stumble across this when it came out. The sleeve art is terrible IMO, but the contents are unique and vinyl only...

There's a rip of the whole LP on YouTube, in case you want to listen into it.

I am still trying to believe that the actual film version of "Chariots" is out there, as well as the "Gas Station" cue.

I'm posting this just in case The Mutant missed this release as well, although that is hard to imagine :-)

Best,
Burnie

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the heads up!

I didn’t know about this and I would love to have those extra cues - was really bummed they were not included on the CD.

Dude!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Its the best in the franchise, though i haven't seen the movie in a long-time, so, I need to watch & listen to it fully, then AHI. I'll check out that LP. Thanks BD, top banana.





 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

It appears to have everything. Even the curfew cue, which I adore. I’ll definitely pick up the LP and try my best to transfer it into digital files. I only hope someone else picks up the rights and releases a definitive CD version which actually is complete.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   BlindDoc   (Member)

It appears to have everything. Even the curfew cue, which I adore. I’ll definitely pick up the LP and try my best to transfer it into digital files. I only hope someone else picks up the rights and releases a definitive CD version which actually is complete.

Uh, where did you find the "curfew" cue? I listened through the whole thing and didn't find it. On "my" version, i took it from the film, segueing into "Starker & Marge". Did you hear in on the LP on YouTube???

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

It appears to have everything. Even the curfew cue, which I adore. I’ll definitely pick up the LP and try my best to transfer it into digital files. I only hope someone else picks up the rights and releases a definitive CD version which actually is complete.

Uh, where did you find the "curfew" cue? I listened through the whole thing and didn't find it. On "my" version, i took it from the film, segueing into "Starker & Marge". Did you hear in on the LP on YouTube???



Ah damn. I thought I saw it in the tracklist.

Damn I really wish this would get released on CD.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   BlindDoc   (Member)

It appears to have everything. Even the curfew cue, which I adore. I’ll definitely pick up the LP and try my best to transfer it into digital files. I only hope someone else picks up the rights and releases a definitive CD version which actually is complete.

Uh, where did you find the "curfew" cue? I listened through the whole thing and didn't find it. On "my" version, i took it from the film, segueing into "Starker & Marge". Did you hear in on the LP on YouTube???



Ah damn. I thought I saw it in the tracklist.

Damn I really wish this would get released on CD.


Yes, too bad. I'd have preferred this to the two Jingles alternates. But for my "archival edition", this is one of - now only 2 remaining - cues i took directly from the film. The other one is what i call "Test Room A" - which of course is the Kuepfer family mayhem. It's quite a funny and crazy listen with all those sound f/x and screams.

I also wished this was on CD too. But it would once again be a somewhat strange edition. The "Misfire" cue is repeated (it bookends one of the jingle variants) and track titles are partly silly, partly misleading ("Microphone" is the second "Hospital Morning" variant that plays when Atkins and Nelkin first arrive at the factory, "Buddy's Death" is actually what i call "Just Another Drill" - the temple Drilling).

Death Waltz did do a CD version of Assault (which was already released by Record Makers), so why not this? Should we write them?

Best,
Burnie


 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I would personally produce it if I could. I have a wealth of original posters both foreign and domestic, lobby cards, stills, you name it. Would love the opportunity to correct those track titles too. Hey Boom is just stupid. Should be Hospital Assassin.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Mateo Sanboval   (Member)

Top 5 score for me. Pretty surprised this hasn't yet received the complete or deluxe treatment yet. Or even a Howarth re-recording. especially since everything Carpenter is a reliably saleable commodity.

How many different editions of this score are there with unique music on them?

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

How odd that this is the one score I listened to yesterday, after literally about 2 years of not hearing it. It was like hanging with an old friend you can't believe you haven't made the time for.

Bummer that there still appears to be one cue missing in action AND that, so far, this hasn't made its way to CD. I may have to pick up the vinyl, too, Mutant.

Do they typically include a download code with their LPs?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Mateo Sanboval   (Member)

Do they typically include a download code with their LPs?

Negative. It is a darn fine pressing, though. Either pressing.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   BlindDoc   (Member)

I would personally produce it if I could. I have a wealth of original posters both foreign and domestic, lobby cards, stills, you name it. Would love the opportunity to correct those track titles too. Hey Boom is just stupid. Should be Hospital Assassin.

Ah yes, i would be with you all the way -if i had the bread... 2 Cds, complete score on disc 1, album plus alternates on disc 2. howarth created quite some alternates for the AHI disc. Technically and strictly speaking, we'd also still need the actual end title chariots version minus stinger, the "8 more days" jingle, the test room sequence and of course "curfew" including JLC narration.

i've loved this score to death since i bought the album in '83. Sweet 14 years of age. You might imagine my success with women at the time with such musical tastes... smile.

Well, it seems that Death Waltz had access to the original master tapes, unalterd by Alan Howarth. Maybe they can be pursuaded in releasing a totally complete CD edition if we both promise to buy 100 each? Half kidding, of course. An edition of 250 copies. 50 copies for the other strange folks that would be into it.

I used to have the French (huge) poster as well, but we had a fungus in the basement many years ago. About 50 movie posters were eaten by it. Fortunately the original one-sheet survived, since it's always been in a frame on the wall...

Rant off.

Best, Burnie

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Mateo Sanboval   (Member)

Holy smokes! I didn't realize there was an AHI release! How on Earth did I miss that? What's the story with the bonus tracks here? Are they all Howarth re-recordings/reinterpretations or are they originals that he still had access to? To be honest, I'm often a bit confused by the source material on some of the AHI discs as well as some of the other deluxe scores that feature Howarth's involvement and not Carpenter's.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

I'm also a fan of this score and missed this release (I have the original vinyl - which I bought used with a scratch in the begining of the first track, the Varese CD, the AHI expanded CD and the Death Waltz Vinyl reproducing the program of the original LP).

This Deluxe Vinyl seems superior in every aspect to the AHI CD release (with has alternate cues mixed with some of the previously unreleased cues and some sound anomalies) and that odd silence for 1 minute or so in one of the tracks.

This LP seems to have been arranged with more care for the material with the new tracks in film order and an improved mix of the Hospital Muder (one of my favourite tracks and scenes from the film) and the film version of Chariots of Pumpikins.
Side A: https://youtu.be/A96_u3Wh-ks
Side B: https://youtu.be/bZrj8AxLjE0

I hope it this score is revised on CD by AHI or someone else complete (or at least the same program of this LP)!

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Holy smokes! I didn't realize there was an AHI release! How on Earth did I miss that? What's the story with the bonus tracks here? Are they all Howarth re-recordings/reinterpretations or are they originals that he still had access to? To be honest, I'm often a bit confused by the source material on some of the AHI discs as well as some of the other deluxe scores that feature Howarth's involvement and not Carpenter's.


Long story short - it was rushed. There are some excellent expanded cues “Hospital Assassin” being the big one. Definitely worth picking up, but there are some bizarre additions labeled as remixes but they’re identical to the regular tracks. You can still pick it up cheap anywhere, despite the fact that it was advertised as a limited edition of 1000. I imagine they’ve sold way more than that.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 9:45 PM   
 By:   Mateo Sanboval   (Member)

Holy smokes! I didn't realize there was an AHI release! How on Earth did I miss that? What's the story with the bonus tracks here? Are they all Howarth re-recordings/reinterpretations or are they originals that he still had access to? To be honest, I'm often a bit confused by the source material on some of the AHI discs as well as some of the other deluxe scores that feature Howarth's involvement and not Carpenter's.


Long story short - it was rushed. There are some excellent expanded cues “Hospital Assassin” being the big one. Definitely worth picking up, but there are some bizarre additions labeled as remixes but they’re identical to the regular tracks. You can still pick it up cheap anywhere, despite the fact that it was advertised as a limited edition of 1000. I imagine they’ve sold way more than that.


Thanks! Do you think any of the additions are re-recordings or newly tinkered with originals?

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Holy smokes! I didn't realize there was an AHI release! How on Earth did I miss that? What's the story with the bonus tracks here? Are they all Howarth re-recordings/reinterpretations or are they originals that he still had access to? To be honest, I'm often a bit confused by the source material on some of the AHI discs as well as some of the other deluxe scores that feature Howarth's involvement and not Carpenter's.


Long story short - it was rushed. There are some excellent expanded cues “Hospital Assassin” being the big one. Definitely worth picking up, but there are some bizarre additions labeled as remixes but they’re identical to the regular tracks. You can still pick it up cheap anywhere, despite the fact that it was advertised as a limited edition of 1000. I imagine they’ve sold way more than that.


Thanks! Do you think any of the additions are re-recordings or newly tinkered with originals?

No they’re not re-recording. They sound great, just the remixes are weird.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   lake_of_hali   (Member)

Hello Mutant/all,

Being a complete fanatic of the Halloween III score (and i know that The Mutant is too), here's something that i only learned yesterday (but most have probably known for years):

In 2014, Death Waltz re-released their Halloween III LP as a "Deluxe Edition" containing some score cues that were omitted from the AHI CD.

Here's the Discogs link:

https://www.discogs.com/de/John-Carpenter-Alan-Howarth-Halloween-III-Season-Of-The-Witch/release/6352416

Additional score cues are:

- Chariots Of Pumpkins (film/Grimbridge chase version)
- Gas Station (Grimbridge breaking down in gas station)
- Halloween Jingle ("two more days" version)
- Halloween Jingle ("one more day" version)

Of additional interest: "Hey Boom" ("Robot kills Grimbridge" on LP) is a new mix/mastering that does NOT eliminate the pulse/beat when the sequencer kicks in. Much, much better IMHO. Also, "The Factory" (i can't recall what it's called on the LP) does NOT distort when the stingers set in (unlike on the AHI CD).

The tracklist is also misleading though, quite in AHI fashion (smile).

It Looks as if i was still able to snatch up a used copy (still in transit though) for a fairly decent price.

How weird that i didn't stumble across this when it came out. The sleeve art is terrible IMO, but the contents are unique and vinyl only...

There's a rip of the whole LP on YouTube, in case you want to listen into it.

I am still trying to believe that the actual film version of "Chariots" is out there, as well as the "Gas Station" cue.

I'm posting this just in case The Mutant missed this release as well, although that is hard to imagine :-)

Best,
Burnie

How come the Death Waltz album is only on vinyl?

I was unable to determine from the posts whether 'Curfew' had ever turned up.

Has anyone ever run down all of the uncredited library tracks used in Halloween III? Sort of like the fan work that's been done for Dawn of the Dead '78 and The Fog?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Mateo Sanboval   (Member)

Death Waltz Recording Co is an almost exclusively vinyl label. They've released a couple of CDs, usually at the behest of a composer as was the case with Room 237, but always when they are the original rights holder for those scores. In the case of their reissues, the vast majority of their releases, they are vinyl only. They did release some cassettes of the Carpenter material, including H3, in the early days of the label as a promotion/novelty, but no CDs.

Also, how much library music is in Halloween III? The Fog was littered with it and some of those fan compilations are quite impressive.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2017 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   tyuan   (Member)

cd release = instant purchase for me.
I don't love vinyls.

 
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