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 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:11 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

...who do you think would've made the best film composer..... and why!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Rachmaninov - I suspect he would have taken to the medium perfectly, and he had such a wonderful gift of both drama and melody - oh, just read my liner notes from our recent Rachmaninov release - I explain all of this in them.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Wagner

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Wagner

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Wagner

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Wagner

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:24 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Saying it four times doesn't make it true.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Bartók, Stravinsky and Richard Strauss to list just a few.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Rachmaninov - I suspect he would have taken to the medium perfectly, and he had such a wonderful gift of both drama and melody - oh, just read my liner notes from our recent Rachmaninov release - I explain all of this in them.

He could've been the greatest composer for "chick flicks".... THAT'S for sure! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Wagner, for sure, and most of the romantic composers. Mahler and Debussy are others. Stravinsky (they tried, but failed).

Of course, many of the classical composers of the late 19th and 20th century DID do film scores on occasion too -- Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Vaughan Williams etc. I think that gives us some idea of how a film score by the previous generation would have sounded, had they lived to see the medium be born.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 2:33 AM   
 By:   Orrence   (Member)

Verdi! A master of the melody , of creating the appropriate atmosphere and conveying empathy with the characters/subject.. Am not an opera fan, but have seen 4 different versions of Rigoletto, which is a feast of great melodies, and the music encompasses so many different emotions. He had a flair for the theatrical. Both he and Wagner dominated the world of opera in their time and would probably have made brilliant film music composers : Wagner a specialist of the epic production.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Tchaikovsky.Think his ballets.And being given instructions by choreographer for so may bars of such and such music and then...

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 2:55 AM   
 By:   Orrence   (Member)

Tchaikovsky.Think his ballets.And being given instructions by choreographer for so may bars of such and such music and then...

Yes! Could imagine that he might have excelled in composing for 'musicals' in particular.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Well here's where we list our favourite composers. My all-time favourite (& as far as I'm concerned the best ever) is Handel, he mostly wrote dramatic music that's as catchy as hell & he could work very fast (important in film composing), & of course Mozart was no slouch, he would have been brilliant.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Wagner practically WAS a film composer who did not compose for films. (His music has no real form apart from dramatic intent.)

Stravinsky and Bartok had a huge impact on film music (two of the strongest influences of Jerry Goldsmith), they might have been good film composers as well.

And I'm sure Maurice Ravel might have done ravishingly beautiful film scores.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Orrence   (Member)

Well here's where we list our favourite composers. My all-time favourite (& as far as I'm concerned the best ever) is Handel, he mostly wrote dramatic music that's as catchy as hell & he could work very fast (important in film composing), & of course Mozart was no slouch, he would have been brilliant.

Mozart is also my overall favourite composer of all time. Have a boxed CD set of his complete works. He achieved so much in his short life and was very adaptable to changes in musical styles/progress. However, I chose Verdi and Wagner because they were of a later period and their influence on many of today's (and yesterday's) more 'classically orientated orchestral film scores' (including powerful choruses) can hardly be denied.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Wagner. Mozart and Haydn would have been great for comedy I think, or something aristocratic.

Mahler would have been seriously interesting. Bruckner would have done superhero movies.

Just guessing smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Although Wagner's style "sounds like film music" -- because it was an influence on many Golden Age composers (as well as Williams' Star Wars scores) -- I don't think he'd have made a good film composer.

Wagner (and his notoriously colossal ego) would never have consented to being given eight weeks to compose a score (he'd have demanded a couple of years) or taking direction from a filmmaker, or having his music blended (much less drowned-out) by sound effects.

I can only see Wagner as a "film composer" if the film was an adaptation of one of his operas, for which he wrote the libretto and produced himself.

My vote for best classical composer who would have been the best at films? Ravel (and it almost happened with Disney, but he wanted more time to write than they were willing to give him).

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Rimsky-Korsakov

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2017 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

My favorite is in line with Bernard Herrmann's: Joseph Joachim Raff -- the guy was 10 years older than Brahms but so much of his music is very forward-looking and some sounds very much like film music. He was influential on composers Just listen to the sweeping theme heard here about three minutes in to the second movement, and imagine it for the Fellowship of the Ring traversing mountain passes! (I adore Shore's scores, but his simplistic Fellowship theme leaves a lot to be desired for me.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmlkMHT9y0&feature=youtu.be&t=15m21s

I include a little buildup before the theme comes in...also this recording is a little fast for me (otherwise superbly performed) but I couldn't find any YouTube excerpt of my favorite performance (cond. Werner Andreas Albert on CPO).

Go to www.raff.org to learn more and hear substantial excerpts from all/most of his major works.

Yavar

 
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