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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I have the Sony and love it, especially how heavy it gets. I've heard clips from the Rhino (seemed significantly more tame, which is not a good thing for this movie to my ears) and have yet to check out the FSM (though extremely interested).

I'd be really grateful for opinions on favorites.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Are the Sony and Rhino releases not the same?

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Sony is the original MGM release which is a rerecording. Rosza's original didn't materialize until the Rhino in 1995

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Tadlow.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Sony is the original MGM release which is a rerecording. Rosza's original didn't materialize until the Rhino in 1995

Ah thanks. Confused as Sony then reissued the Rhino I believe.

Looking forward to the Tadlow release as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   arne.dupont   (Member)

TCM Turner R272197 with the book

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

FSM & Tadlow. What else?!

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I'm tired of BEN-HUR. I want a remastering of the score to that other Heston classic.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

I'm tired of BEN-HUR. I want a remastering of the score to that other Heston classic.

SOLAR CRISIS, right? razz

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Not like it's gonna happen but I'd love to see FSM try a Ben-Hur approach to Gone With The Wind.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Dr. Lao   (Member)

FSM & Tadlow. What else?!

Decca.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2017 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Sony is the original MGM release which is a rerecording. Rosza's original didn't materialize until the Rhino in 1995




There were two Sonys. The original Sony 2CD consisted of the two MGM LPs (Carlo Savina and Volume 2 More Music) with three DVD tracks added.

The more recent Sony was a reissue of the Rhino 2CD from the OST minus the trappings.

The FSM contains everything from both releases and much, much more, in good sound.

The FSM, the Tadlow and the Decca are the essentials. The score has so lavish a variety that every alternative cue is indispensable.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Sony is the original MGM release which is a rerecording. Rosza's original didn't materialize until the Rhino in 1995




There were two Sonys. The original Sony 2CD consisted of the two MGM LPs (Carlo Savina and Volume 2 More Music) with three DVD tracks added.

The more recent Sony was a reissue of the Rhino 2CD from the OST minus the trappings.

The FSM contains everything from both releases and much, much more, in good sound.

The FSM, the Tadlow and the Decca are the essentials. The score has so lavish a variety that every alternative cue is indispensable.


I must say, I just got done reading your thoughts on Quo Vadis (Tadlow, super recording imo) and though I like all the members here, I've gotten the most out of your posts So far you've helped me decide on the abovementioned QV (many thanks), and now I'm looking beyond the Sony Hur.

Apologies, but I do really like the Turner Entertainment/Sony release. It has thrilled me on countless occasions. If either of those three are better, I'm in for a rapturous listening experience.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

If for nothing else, the Turner CD set which was well received at the time as being the first release of the original tracks, is indispensable for the excellent presentation which included a substantial book (although light on musical analysis).

The comprehensive FSM five disc set deserved a more prestigious box set presentation although a box and book containing the substantial notes available on-line, would probably have priced it beyond the reach of many.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

If for nothing else, the Turner CD set which was well received at the time as being the first release of the original tracks, is indispensable for the excellent presentation which included a substantial book (although light on musical analysis).

The comprehensive FSM five disc set deserved a more prestigious box set presentation although a box and book containing the substantial notes available on-line, would probably have priced it beyond the reach of many.


I would have LOVED a more detailed analysis...is that something the Tadlow provides?

I could just buy the "Ben-Hur Film Score Guide" if I want to go that deeply (an excellent series, with Vertigo the cream of an outstanding crop). However, I'd rather spend the 40 on the new release if it means I'll get that.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)



I would have LOVED a more detailed analysis...is that something the Tadlow provides?

I could just buy the "Ben-Hur Film Score Guide" if I want to go that deeply (an excellent series, with Vertigo the cream of an outstanding crop). However, I'd rather spend the 40 on the new release if it means I'll get that.




You're in luck right here. When FSM released its 5-disc box, Lukas decided to keep costs down for the punter by providing a hugely detailed set of notes by Frank DeWald (who knows his music, has taught music and composed choral pieces) right here online:. See this lot:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/notes/ben_hur.html

At the right margin menu, see the various page links highlighted in orange at top right.



Also, Ralph Erkelenz has produced a book-length set of detailed cue breakdowns for the original score at the Rozsa Society site. These were originally published in Pro Musica Sana magazine. You can even download them:

http://www.miklosrozsa.org/

Go to 'Features', then click on 'Detailed Analysis' and a PDf will arrive.

The new Tadlow has Frank DeWald's notes 'treated as a classical album' but he recommends using the online FSM for detail.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)



I would have LOVED a more detailed analysis...is that something the Tadlow provides?

I could just buy the "Ben-Hur Film Score Guide" if I want to go that deeply (an excellent series, with Vertigo the cream of an outstanding crop). However, I'd rather spend the 40 on the new release if it means I'll get that.




You're in luck right here. When FSM released its 5-disc box, Lukas decided to keep costs down for the punter by providing a hugely detailed set of notes by Frank DeWald (who knows his music, has taught music and composed choral pieces) right here online:. See this lot:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/notes/ben_hur.html

At the right margin menu, see the various page links highlighted in orange at top right.



Also, Ralph Erkelenz has produced a book-length set of detailed cue breakdowns for the original score at the Rozsa Society site. These were originally published in Pro Musica Sana magazine. You can even download them:

http://www.miklosrozsa.org/

Go to 'Features', then click on 'Detailed Analysis' and a PDf will arrive.

The new Tadlow has Frank DeWald's notes 'treated as a classical album' but he recommends using the online FSM for detail.


WOW thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

For those who still remember CAT (Cindy) - the Love Theme is one of her favourite pieces of music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

For those who still remember CAT (Cindy) - the Love Theme is one of her favourite pieces of music.


How's she doing TG? Are you at leave to say 'owt?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

For those who still remember CAT (Cindy) - the Love Theme is one of her favourite pieces of music.


How's she doing TG? Are you at leave to say 'owt?



Sadly I've had no word for some time. She moved from New Jersey to Florida for her health. I was vaguely in touch with her daughter but since coming off fb I've lost that connection.

 
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