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 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Just had to get this poster up that you all were talking about, so the next person doesn't have to search for it online!


You're welcome.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2017 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I particularly like this bit of Star Trek merchandising - far and away the most accurate replica of something that appeared in pretty much every episode of TOS IIRC.

Is anyone the proud owner of this magnificent collector's item?



That helmet has long been (in)famous among fans, and is now beloved for its utter ridiculousness. One fan recently went so far as to craft a decent replica, sized up for his adult head, to wear at last month's Star Trek Las Vegas convention:

http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/09/beam-down-in-style-with-this-homemade-star-trek-spock-helmet/

Honestly, I wish I'd done it first; I'd totally wear that thing for a laugh now, though I would never have dared be seen with it when I was the right age / size to have worn the original.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Just had to get this poster up that you all were talking about, so the next person doesn't have to search for it online!


You're welcome.


That's the one. Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Just had to get this poster up that you all were talking about, so the next person doesn't have to search for it online!


You're welcome.


That's the one. Thanks.


There was actually a Phase 2 filming model of the Enterprise built. But it was designed for the small screen. When they decided to switch to a motion picture they had to build a new bigger model of the Enterprise.

In that process it was redesigned into the Refit we saw in the film. But even when a second filming model was built it was considered to plain and small for the big screen. Douglas Trumbull (or was it John Dykstra?) who had no involvement in the building of either model, felt the Enterprise should've been much larger, like the models in 2001. This is when the "Aztec paneling" was conceived in order to give the Enterprise model a sense of scale for it's size. I believe they also filmed it using a fish-eyed lens, which kinda "bloated" it's size on film.

The final Enterprise model was also notoriously heavy. Since Trumbull inherited the model his crew were not familiar with the insane wiring and lighting system used inside of it either. The previous effect company were not forthcoming in helping them with the electronic issues. (The original effects company had no experience designing or building physical models.)

When ILM got the job to do Star Trek 2 TWOK, they build the Reliant with much lighter material for ease in filming.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2018 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

ST:TMP was also marketed with a series of "themed" TV spots. This one is titled "Common Experience":



"Common" is right! wink

Orson Welles voiceover...again.

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Those comic strips you mention, Jim, have all been published in recent years in high quality hardbacks. I asked for the first volume for Christmas, but having ground to a halt somewhere in the first third of the book, never picked up the second and final volume, which I think ends around the time you must have first seen them. (I never saw it in my local papers either.)

I haven't yet gotten those Star Trek comic strip books, but I did get the Russ Manning Star Wars comic strip book. If you don't have it already, I highly recommend it. Vols 2 and 3, covering the Goodwin-Williamson strips, are due out this year.

http://www.amzn.com/1631408720

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I keep eyeing the Russ Manning Star Wars strips - I was looking at it at Barnes and Noble just last weekend. Now your post makes me think I've gotta pick them up.

I have the Goodwin/Williamson strips redone as ongoing comics stories by Dark Horse in the nineties. They are kind of my favorite Star Wars comics (along with DH's Star Wars Tales collections). Williamson's art suits Star Wars to a tee, second only to Ralph McQ. I wish he had done Star Trek, which hasn't been near so well served by comics artists.

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I keep eyeing the Russ Manning Star Wars strips - I was looking at it at Barnes and Noble just last weekend. Now your post makes me think I've gotta pick them up.

I have the Goodwin/Williamson strips redone as ongoing comics stories by Dark Horse in the nineties. They are kind of my favorite Star Wars comics (along with DH's Star Wars Tales collections). Williamson's art suits Star Wars to a tee, second only to Ralph McQ. I wish he had done Star Trek, which hasn't been near so well served by comics artists.


IMO Al Williamson was the successor to Alex Raymond. His art astonished me as a kid and I continue to adore it as I approach my dotage. wink I have all the Star Wars (and most Star Trek) comic strips via jpegs, but I have wanted beautifully-published versions for decades! The Goodwin-Williamson strips were published in a gigantic hardcover back in the late '80s, but was entirely too much money for me then. I still have my ancient newspaper clippings of this stuff.

...and don't even get me started on the Library of American Comics publication of Milton Caniff's Steve Canyon strips! Ecstasy!

Okay, back to ST:TMP and its marketing...(though do chime in on whatever else we discuss here, folks.)

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

TMP TV spot. "Human Adventure"[sic]

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I love these spots you're posting Jim - which I think I've already said I don't think I ever saw a one of at the time. Having grown up in the era, hearing Orson Welles talk about Star Trek really ups it into the stratosphere of pop culture - we trekkies have arrived! wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2018 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Welles only did the vocal 'cause VGer/Vjur was starring as an alias for Rosebud. On its journey it amassed so much clutter, it achieved bloatedness itself.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I love these spots you're posting Jim - which I think I've already said I don't think I ever saw a one of at the time. Having grown up in the era, hearing Orson Welles talk about Star Trek really ups it into the stratosphere of pop culture - we trekkies have arrived! wink

"Hardware" TV spot:

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

It was marketed in the UK threw food franchises, clothes/utensils, adverts, late night talk shows, plus a range of toys, the film is ok, cool, but not in the league of Wrath of Khan, action.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2018 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

TMP had aliens galore. The human race had met the facial prosthesis neighbors. The film asked the question, "is there anything more alien than alternative forms of life," and what is the ultimate nature of intelligence/consciousness.

None of the other Trek films did that, although, I'll give Shatner his due. At least his movie attempted to ask deeper questions about personal experience, with the inclusion of the odd phaser blast.

Edit: The scene where Kirk realizes what VGer/Vjur needs in order to evolve is a human quality - "our capacity to leap beyond logic" - struck me as something along the lines of what Sir Roger Penrose has suggested - that there is something quantum mechanical going on which can't just simply be ascribed to logic gates alone. Obviously, Kirk did not read The Emperor's New Mind despite his fondness for putting his bifocals to good use.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Enterprise" TV spot:

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Ah! Found another McDonald's "Happy Meal" advert! Hadn't seen this one before:



Apparently it was the "only meal approved for your kids by the United Federation of Planets." Sounds like the Federation was pretty soft on nutrition, but then again we weren't a bunch of fatties like the Millennial Falcon generation is.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Ah! Found another McDonald's "Happy Meal" advert! Hadn't seen this one before:



Apparently it was the "only meal approved for your kids by the United Federation of Planets." Sounds like the Federation was pretty soft on nutrition, but then again we weren't a bunch of fatties like the Millennial Falcon generation is.


It's funny how all the non cannon illustrations of the Enterprise and Klingon ships in advertisements shows rocket exhaust. Clearly the people working on these ad campaigns never knew a damn thing about the series.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2018 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

"Enterprise" TV spot:



Whats up with that very first shot of the Enterprise where it's squished together like a fat bloated thing? eek

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Enterprise" TV spot:
Whats up with that very first shot of the Enterprise where it's squished together like a fat bloated thing? eek


I was trying to figure that out! It's represented as being the Enterprise and couldn't be another starship, could it? I suppose we could chalk it up to TMP's troubled production.

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2018 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

"Enterprise" TV spot:
Whats up with that very first shot of the Enterprise where it's squished together like a fat bloated thing? eek


I was trying to figure that out! It's represented as being the Enterprise and couldn't be another starship, could it? I suppose we could chalk it up to TMP's troubled production.


It's the Enterprise. The shot was not shown that way in the theater, well for the most part. I know virtually nothing about how film works in the projector, but I do remember when I saw the film in the theater they forgot to set up the projector properly and the image on screen was distorted for the first 10 minutes of the film. Someone in the booth was notified and they had to flip some lens or something so the film was presented properly on the screen.

 
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