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 Posted:   Jul 26, 2017 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

An elderly friend asked me to see if these records might be worth something. She has three 3-inch-diameter 78 RPM records by The Andrews Sisters. They are on the Decca label and resemble 10-inch Decca 78s of the period, gold printing on a black label. Each one has "DECCA Personality Series - Reg. U.S. Pat. Off." printed above the center hole, and the name of the song, the artist and record number printed below the center hole. The three records are Bei Mir Bist Du Shoen (23605), I'll Be With You in Apple Blossom Time (23608) and Pennsylvania Polka (23609). Each record lasts only 30 - 35 seconds. Interestingly, the catalog numbers match those of the 10-inch mass-produced full-length records. However the recordings on the 3-inch records are totally different performances. The are NOT edits of the hit versions recorded with an orchestra. Instead they are 30-second condensed versions of the songs with the Andrews Sisters accompanied only by a solo piano.

What I want to know is "What are these tiny records and why do they exist?" Obviously, they were not made for widespread commercial distribution through record stores, or they wouldn't have the same catalog number as the full-length 10-inch 78 version (for instance, if a store ordered 20 copies of Decca 23605, would they get a 3-inch record or a 10-inch record?) My best guess is that these were made specifically to be played on some type of children's miniature toy phonograph, perhaps something that a child could pretend her doll might be playing records on.

My investigations online have uncovered next to nothing about these records. Someone on ebay sold a 3-inch Decca record like those I've mentioned (of The Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy of Company B by The Andrews Sisters ((3598)), for around $200.00), but listed no background info about the record itself. Apparently they were as much in the dark as me. Another person had a 3-inch disc, once again in the Decca Personality series, of Russ Morgan doing Does Your Heart Beat for Me (25080). SO, it seems a pattern is forming, that, for whatever reason these records were made, they were made through a deal with Decca Records to harvest some of their artists to make these new miniature renditions.

So, does anyone out there know any Andrews Sisters devotees who might know what these records are? Does anyone know any collectors of obscure physical recorded media that might know about these 3-inch discs? Does anyone know an antiquarian who might be able to validate my children's phonograph idea?

The lack of info on the internet has only made me want to REALLY find out the history of these discs.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2017 - 11:04 PM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

I spoke to a friend, Peter Muldavin, author of the wonderful price guide to "Kiddie Records", about these small records and here is his reply:

"My initial reaction to the posts is that since these are not kiddie records, that I wouldn't have an answer. But they sound similar to 4" flexi Durium advertising records that I have come across. I contacted Kurt Nauck about these and he confirmed what I said above. The person posting could only be guessing that they were made for a children's record player. I strongly doubt that, as they were marketed/distributed to the adult market; furthermore, they could be played on any manual 78 player which did not have a auto-rejection feature when the tone arm got too close to the spindle hole."

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I'm really glad that we have two threads on this topic, in case one thread gets too crowded.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm really glad that we have two threads on this topic, in case one thread gets too crowded.

Thank you for reminding everyone that this is in fact an Andrews Sisters forum and NOT a Star War/Star Track fetishist's safe space.

Now let's all have a "Rum and Coca-Cola" and reflect on what a filthy, lurid, and utterly delightful song it is.

I hope you all join me in cursing Morey Amsterdam's barbed-wire soul.

NSFW

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thank you for reminding everyone that this is in fact an Andrews Sisters forum and NOT a Star War/Star Track fetishist's safe space.

Maybe the moderators can add a fourth sub-forum:

Film Score Discussion
Non-Film Score Discussion
Andrews Sisters 3-Inch 78s Discussion
The Trading Post

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Adding a "Lost Generation"-1920s appreciation sub forum should clinch the deal.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Another of the Universal promo discs:

http://www.chelsearialtostudios.com/bounce_me_brother_with_a_solid_four.mp3

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2017 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I really thank Kurt Nauck and Peter Muldavin for their responses through Recordman, but the basic question of "why were these tiny records made" has really still not been answered.To Peter Muldavin, I want to clarify that these discs are physically NOT like the advertising discs put out on the Durium cardboard/durium 4" records. These are pressed on vinyl or some other plastic material (not shellac discs). If you were referring to the marketing aspect of those Durium discs, I still believe these little Decca records do not qualify. Why would Decca produce these tiny 30-second condensations of songs with an inferior backing track of a solo piano instead of just pressing additional copies of the full-length 10" record with full orchestra for demo purposes to send to record stores, etc. These tiny records must have been recorded and pressed for some specific purpose. What was that purpose?

I have attached links to pics of one of the discs, showing its relative size to a standard 10-inch 78 of the period. I have also attached a link to an audio file of the music I was able to extract from these discs.

https://www.facebook.com/jim.doherty.355?hc_ref=ARSo0Qwcjzz095vbC6wBXmI7O5-lji6pjsWQCMxrMxgKhYrRDkTSlbXzqcSZQiLv5l8


https://soundcloud.com/jim-doherty-5/3-inch-78s

 
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