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I like CDs for the feeling of something real in my hands, for the stable backup they represent, having such a long shelf life, and for their silvery beauty, which has become a kind of retro-futurism now. CDs are what the future used to look like.
So yeah, I listen to digital files, but I never part with the CDs they came from.
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I still buy CDs but if a 16 bit FLAC or 320 kbps download is available, I'll go that route. I just want less 'stuff' and easy access to the music....
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Aug 8, 2017 - 2:11 PM
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Rameau
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That's the hardware that really matters if you consume physical media. And no, "consume" doesn't mean eat. 
That is indeed a major concern: losing the equipment to play your CDs, DVDs, and Blu-rays on.
Yes, I mostly listen to music on my iPod, but every now & again I like to listen to a CD using a good (& big) pair of headphones. I had two players, but in the last year I've bought another two s/h from Charity shops, daft really, but I'm guaranteed to have a player that works. The last one, bought a few months ago from a Charity shop in Dorset, is the best player I have, a Kenwood separate amp & CD player for £20! I plug my big old Sennheiser headphones in there & wow!
A couple of weeks ago while taking a load of stuff to the charity shop, I saw an Aiwa midi stack system on the floor, quite cheap too (£25, about £2 more than a CD soundtrack delivered to the UK), well I had to have it. It lights up blue when turned on & has a surround sound button, which wrecks the music but gives a fun 3D effect to the sound (very seventies). So, no chance of not having a machine to play my CDs on, I think I have six now. My poor old family having to dispose of all this stuff when I croak it, but I have left them all my dosh 
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Dec 17, 2020 - 5:08 PM
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Howard L
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I like CDs for the feeling of something real in my hands, for the stable backup they represent, having such a long shelf life, and for their silvery beauty, which has become a kind of retro-futurism now. CDs are what the future used to look like.
So yeah, I listen to digital files, but I never part with the CDs they came from.
from the NY Times (print) Dec. 10--
No, I Am Not Getting Rid of My Thousands of CDs
Our chief classical music critic writes in praise of going to a shelf, pulling out a recording and sitting down to listen.
By Anthony Tommasini
In the late 1970s, when I was living in Boston, the record store of choice for classical music fans was the Harvard Coop. It had an extensive catalog and informed salespeople eager to offer invariably strong opinions on which albums to buy. I’d often bump into friends and fellow musicians, all of us flipping through bins of LPs. After making a purchase I’d have to squeeze yet more shelf space out of my cramped apartment, but I was pleased at my growing home library.
Then, in 1982, CDs arrived. Slowly everyone started converting from 12-inch vinyl LPs to four-and-a-half-inch plastic CDs in jewel-box cases that required a completely different storage setup. And what were you supposed to do with your old LPs?
Now the cycle has repeated itself, with CD sales dwindling to a fraction of their heights a couple of decades ago. Download and streaming services have taken hold, and physical discs have become obsolete. After all, with everything available online, why clutter up your living space?
This question has taken on newly personal significance as two albums of Virgil Thomson’s music that I made as a pianist in the early 1990s were recently reissued. While a two-CD set is available, online options have immediately made these recordings vastly more accessible than ever before. And bringing attention to some wonderful yet little-known music was the main impetus for the original project.
And yet I can’t imagine giving up my home collection. Yes, finding room in a Manhattan apartment to store ever-increasing numbers of CDs is a constant challenge. In my front hallway and living room I have five wall-affixed cabinets made for me by a carpenter friend, more than 90 feet of shelf space. In my home office I also have an industrial-looking file cabinet that efficiently holds nearly 2,000 CDs. I probably have, in total, more than 4,000 discs. (And I know people who have twice that many!)
And, perhaps out of nostalgia, I still have a stereo cabinet with a long shelf for some old LPs, along with a good turntable in the living room. (Vinyl has been making a comeback over the last decade. And when I’ve popped into stores selling used and just-released LPs, the majority of customers seem to be young people looking for rock and pop albums. Go figure.)
Books have gone digital, too, so we all could certainly clear out our shelves. Yet many of us still love holding real books in our hands and keeping a personal library, however crammed. It means so much to me to have bookcases in my apartment filled with novels I love by Dickens, Dreiser, Hardy and Roth; dozens of biographies and histories; a complete edition of Shakespeare’s plays; and a 12-volume 1911 edition of Jane Austen’s works that I found in a used bookstore.
I feel the same about having right at hand the historic 22-disc edition of Stravinsky conducting his own works; the EMI collection of Maria Callas’s recordings of dozens of complete operas, both studio accounts and live performances; big boxed sets of Britten, Messiaen, Liszt and Ligeti; multiple surveys of Beethoven’s 32 piano sonatas, from Artur Schnabel’s influential recordings of the 1930s to young Igor Levit’s recent, extraordinary nine-disc set. At last count, I have 15 complete recordings of Wagner’s “Ring.”
Most of these recordings are available online. But not organized in volumes like archival documents, with extensive notes, essays and information.
And then there is the issue of audio quality. For decades, starting in the 1950s, the demand for ever-improving, more faithful sound was driven by devotees of classical music. Rock and pop fans were quicker to latch on to MP3s and iPods, excited to be able to store hundreds of favorite songs on devices they could put in their pockets and quite ready to sacrifice audio excellence for convenience.
The classical music contingent held out — but not for long. In time, even those choosy collectors decided that being able to listen through earbuds to Bach’s “Brandenburg” Concertos as they jogged in a park, or to Debussy’s “La Mer” as they rode the bus, was worth the trade-off in richness of sound. And, at least at home, it’s possible to hook up your computer or device to high-end stereo component systems, or to speakers that rival them.
My system, though very good, is hardly top of the line; I’m not a fervent audiophile. Yet the act of going to a shelf, pulling out a recording of the piece I want to hear and sitting down to listen focuses my attention and enriches the experience.
For a while, my husband, Ben, deferred to me about what was, after all, an essential element of my life’s work. And in earlier days, when he was looking forward to joining me for a concert of Sibelius symphonies or a performance of Verdi’s “Falstaff,” he was quite glad to have my library of recordings available to prep himself. But he has gone 100 percent Spotify. And even if, at home, he can channel online recordings through a small Flip 5, an external Bluetooth speaker that actually sounds very good, he also loves his earbuds.
Years ago, as my collection kept expanding, Ben reached a breaking point and instituted a household regulation: For every new CD I bring in, I must give up an old one. That’s actually reasonable. And when I leave the giveaways in the lobby, they are usually scooped right up, which suggests to me that many other music lovers also still like physical discs and box sets. Maybe it’s generational. My young critic colleagues at The New York Times have minuscule numbers of actual CDs, they tell me. They stream everything.
If streaming has its shortcomings in terms of compensating artists, it may be better from an environmental standpoint. I’ve always assumed that, as with books, CDs can at least be recycled. But a recent Times story set me straight. CDs can be processed into polycarbonate flakes, with some difficulty. But the global market for this material is fast disappearing. So is my home CD library not just a relic, but also an environmental disaster?
Perhaps there’s a middle ground. Many recordings may reach more listeners, do more good and remain available longer online. But it is worth keeping at home recordings I cherish and albums of archival value, like a six-disc set of Bartok at the piano, or Artur Rubinstein’s 82-disc RCA catalog. Perhaps it will suffice for me to read an electronic version of Barack Obama’s new memoir, whereas I am very glad to have a hardcover of my friend Alex Ross’s latest book, “Wagnerism.”
And in truth, now and then, despite Ben’s household rule, I sneak new CDs into the apartment. There are worse habits.
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Thanks for posting that, Howard. I saw it promoted last week and wanted to read it, but I don't subscribe.
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Dec 18, 2020 - 7:54 AM
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Dana Wilcox
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I enjoyed reading that -- many thanks, Howard. As usual, you have something to add which captures a viewpoint we share, far more articulately than I could have expressed it. The aspect or tangibility (if there is such a word), having the physical item in hand and knowing (in most cases) that you "own" that music forever which you value, can hear it, ogle it, read or re-read the printed booklet, enjoy the artwork etc., the physical presence of something you paid good money for, all of that goes into preferring the tangible to the intangible... I totally understand the alternative viewpoint, of those who prefer the economy of space gained by choosing downloads, and who have no emotional attachment to the physicality of CDs. I guess that having come of age in an era during which "if you didn't have it, you couldn't listen to it," and during which there was a very limited selection of film music available to begin with, I learned of necessity to "grab it and hold on." The prospect of having my music collection disappear because of a computer glitch, improbable as that may be, just makes that way of collecting a non-starter for me.
As a side note, it was heartening to realize that there are some collectors out there whose survivors are going to have a much bigger problem to deal with when they (the collectors) croak than will mine (my collection of books and CDs being far less expansive than Mr. Tommasini's). Yes, the thought of all those beautiful soundtrack CDs ending up in a yard sale or at the local Goodwill, where some rube will pay a buck for my 5-CD BEN-HUR collection and then be disappointed when he listens to it that "they left off the songs"... Depressing. I try not to think about it.
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