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 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Thanks, KonstantinosZ! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Thanks, KonstantinosZ! smile

So what do you think of the theme, I love it!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I didn't even know Willie had a theme. embarrassment You learn something new every day at FSM. smile

EDIT: I assume it would be in "Nocturnal Activities", which is a track I love....


Well, it's really the love theme.
You can listen to a more "formal" statement here:

3.55'-4.43'


Yeah, and like others have said MARION'S THEME is really the love theme too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Thanks, KonstantinosZ! smile

So what do you think of the theme, I love it!



I love it! I guess I'm alone here at FSM in preferring "Willie's Theme" over "Marion's Theme". (Unless you do too, henry.) I love the whole score of "Temple" for that matter. I love the "Raiders" score as well, but as Solium said above, "Marion's Theme" doesn't really fit her as a character, and I just like the melody of "Willie's Theme" a little better.

Just don't throw "Elsa's Theme" into the mix, or you'll really confuse me! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Thanks, KonstantinosZ! smile

So what do you think of the theme, I love it!



I love it! I guess I'm alone here at FSM in preferring "Willie's Theme" over "Marion's. (Unless you do too, henry.) I love the whole score of "Temple" for that matter. I love the "Raiders" score as well, but as Solium said above, "Marion's Theme" doesn't really fit her as a character, and I just like the melody of "Willie's Theme" a little better.

Just don't throw "Elsa's Theme" into the mix, or you'll really confuse me! wink


To be honest I love them both the same, however I think WILLIE'S THEME is highly underrated. But yeah, LAST CRUSADE didn't have a love theme. But I do love the Grail Theme!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

While we're kind of on the subject of "Doom"... who orchestrated/arranged the "Anything Goes" section at the beginning of the film? I've always LOVED it!
EDIT: Oh, and also... is that Kate Capshaw singing, or was she dubbed?



Arrangement by Williams

Orchestration bt Herbert Spencer or alex courage - can't remember - don't have the file here on this com

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

That has more to do with the difficulty of giving a theme a name. It can be misleading. The theme relates to Marion and Indiana together. And even then the expansiveness of the theme doesn't really fit the relationship except when analyzed with the specific instances of the film. So you have a moment where the theme accompanies the expansiveness of the Arabian desert and that's why the theme has kind of an ethnic flavor and then another moment where it looks like she just got blown up and Indy reacts. Williams tries to find solutions to the film but whether or not that can neatly be summed up in an appropriate theme name, is another thing.

Very well stated. It's really a statement that expresses Indie's love for Marion. Not a theme which describes Marion herself.

Similar to the romantic material in TESB in that way.


Exactly. It's a little more apparent with the Empire score because the cue that highlights the theme is actually called “Han Solo and the Princess,” drawing attention to the fact that it is a theme for their relationship, not either specific character (and Leia already has a theme). “Marion's Theme” is really the Raiders love theme.

As for whether I prefer Willie's theme or Marion's — I like them both, but I think Marion's theme has the edge. I say this as somebody who generally likes Temple of Doom a bit more than Raiders, even though I believe Raiders to be the superior score in terms of craftsmanship. Marion's theme has a more meandering quality to the melody, giving it more nooks and crannies to explore.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

Although in some ways the love theme in Empire could be labeled "Fate of Han Theme" or something like that. For example, we hear the theme for the first time when Han is on the radio talking to Luke and the theme is used in other instances as he is escaping in his ship or even the finale where they are all looking out the window and there isn't necessarily a tight connection to the romantic relationship. Han and Leia is a very important subset of the operatic story arc of Han Solo in the movie I guess is how I look at it.

And then ironically the theme for Leia is many ways the theme that represents Luke's reaction to the idea of this princess he has to find. In fact Williams jokes now that the big concert version of that theme was a big mistake because he mistakenly thought Luke and Leia were going to be romantically involved. Like Marion's theme, it was used to solve specific circumstances
in the movie and doesn't work as well as a descriptive representation of Leia.

- Adam

 
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