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 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dxe_ugmIVM

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

Ugh.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dxe_ugmIVM

what is "SJW: ?

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Ugh.

what are you a racist? Sexist? ALienphobe?

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I predict :
Thor will love it.
Riotengine will watch it no matter how bad it is
Most of the criticism will come from people who have not seen a single episode (like yours truly)

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

re: Klingons -- they really botched that. There was no need to fix what wasn't broken, and now the Klingons have yet another look, presumably for no good reason.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Trailer link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dxe_ugmIVM

what is "SJW: ?


"Social Justice Warrior"

Kinda weird, looks like a JJ universe prequel. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. How can you have some alien in Starfleet never seen before? in a prequel I mean.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 11:12 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

They re-shaped the star inside the arrowhead, apparently to make it look foreign or "not of Western civilization." There was no call for that. That's just rubbing our nose in it.

What's the point of a grueling walk on deep sand, under a broiling sun, when you can flip open a communicator and say "Beam us up"? Any walking distance is trivial when you can do that. The desert trudge is just contrived visual drama for its own sake.

The trailer makes it appear that human white males are seen only as background and subordinate functionaries, but I'm confident we'll see some ranking ones as soon as the show reveals its true villain or its evil conspiracy. Or when they need to portray someone who "doesn't get it." We'll see white males then.

I'll watch the premier if they stick with the plan to show it on CBS, but when it goes behind a pay wall, forget it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2017 - 11:52 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

"STAR TREK: DISCOVERY---first official photo from the new Trek tv series shows Sonequa- Martin-Green as First Officer Michael Burnham and Michelle Yeoh as Captain Philippa Georgiou."


Why do Hollywood writers love to give male names to female characters?

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 12:02 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Why do Hollywood writers love to give male names to female characters?

I haven't noticed that particular thing, but in general Hollywood is trying to reverse every stereotype and dismantle every tradition. And women are addressed as Sir or Mister because women's gender must be ignored (except in the case of transgender women, whose new gender must be highlighted and celebrated).

Of course, it's all in the execution. STD might portray its social ideology in an easy-going way, or a hell-bent and shrill one. We haven't really seen it yet. I'll watch the premier with an open mind if it's on free TV.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 12:44 AM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

I'll say it again.

Ugh.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

"STAR TREK: DISCOVERY---first official photo from the new Trek tv series shows Sonequa- Martin-Green as First Officer Michael Burnham and Michelle Yeoh as Captain Philippa Georgiou."


Why do Hollywood writers love to give male names to female characters?


Michael can also be used as as a female name. Michael Learned springs to mind.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I didn't catch it right away those evil aliens are supposed to be Klingons. Their design just gets worse with every new incarnation. I was really hoping this looked like the various fan series which honors the original series esthetics, not the JJ universe. It's sad, just sad!

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I didn't catch it right away those evil aliens are supposed to be Klingons. Their design just gets worse with every new incarnation. I was really hoping this looked like the various fan series which honors the original series esthetics, not the JJ universe. It's sad, just sad!

Yeah, I think the best Klingons were in Star Trek The Motion Picture, they looked war like and severe. The JJ versions were all streamlined, I did not like it. Otherwise, this looks like a lot of effects and zoomey camera work and some lens flare. Hard to tell much other than that. But I am guessing this is going with a wide-net approach to gather in non Trekkers, so this will not be a by the book Trek series about ideas in the classic Trek genetic sense. But those days are probably over, I am not sure, it seems that there is a decent bit of real scripted series work taking place, but Trek - I do not know. It should rightly be most successful on television rather than movies. I think the whole effort here suffered a setback with Fuller leaving, I think he was forced out.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Looks very same ol' same ST to me, but hopefully it'll be far better than the last two movies. The young Kirk and Spock thing is unwatchable.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



The trailer makes it appear that human white males are seen only as background and subordinate functionaries, but I'm confident we'll see some ranking ones as soon as the show reveals its true villain or its evil conspiracy. Or when they need to portray someone who "doesn't get it." We'll see white males then.
t.


"preview" of the ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY review:

Commendably, STD has a varied,mutl-cultural cast. But, Hollywood still has a long way to go to address it's diversity problem"

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

How I long for the days of Rick Berman.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

How I long for the days of Rick Berman.

How funny you say that. I have thought that as well.He was somewhat reviled by Trek fans at the time. But he is looking pretty competent right now. He had the benefit as a producer of being tutored directly by Roddenberry. Despite a couple of things that I did not like about his tastes, for wallpaper scoring for example, I think he pretty well understood what Trek is about, and really tried to stay true to it. Piller was a pretty good writer producer as well, it is too bad we lost him.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2017 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)


"... human white males are seen only as background and subordinate functionaries,.... "

well, that is certainly the proper way one perceives FSMers ((except, of course Tall Guy)

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2017 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I really wish they up their game as far as scripts and acting. The Star Trek universe rarely has great acting or engaging characters. It always feels a few notches below the (best) stuff being produced nowadays. A cheese factor remains when it comes to Sci Fi.

 
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